The Great Divorce: A Convenantal Lawsuit – Episode 055
Jul 1st, 2011 | By Off The Grid Radio | Category: Radio | Print This Article
“The Declaration of Independence was a kind of covenant lawsuit, not unlike those of the Old Testament. It was intended to send a message to both Parliament and Crown that the rule of law would be upheld, regardless of their tyrannies.” — George Mason
What was going on in the colonies leading up to the Declaration of Independence? Were these hotheads that were just looking for a fight?
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View Text TranscriptionNot hardly. History shows us, through the documents and petitions they submitted on a continual basis to King George, through their writings and through their activities, that they were a people who truly believed they were in a covenantal relationship with their king and with God. And after all means of reconciliation with the king were attempted and spurned, it was with the greatest of sorrow that the colonists decided that a covenantal lawsuit, a suit against the kind seeking a “divorce” from England, was in order.
Please join Bill Heid and Brian Brawdy today for a very special Off the Grid Radio, our July 4th, Independence Day edition. They discuss this wonderful experiment in liberty, the events that were going on around 1775 that would lead up to the dissolution of the colonists’ compact with England and her king, and they analyze the very foundations of the belief system that allowed these men to stand fast in the defense of our inalienable right to liberty.
In this episode:
- The true example of “transparency in politics”
- The spiritual foundations of the Founders
- The Olive Branch petition and the call to war
- And more…
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i like your perspective. God is left out of the picture in our view of history and we can see the results whenever this happens.
Isa 58:1 Cry aloud, spare not, lift up thy voice like a trumpet, and shew my people their transgression, and the house of Jacob their sins.
Try taking God out of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution. You can’t do it and still maintain the authority to govern ourselves, which they are founded upon. If you take God out, the authority to create those documents collapses, our authority to govern ourselves collapses, and therefore the authority of our government collapses. God is the source of the authority which the founders used to write the documents and form our government via the inalienable rights He has given us. Yes, I can conceive of wise men joining together to create such documents as these and form a government using just their own intelligence and wisdom, thereby using the authority of truth and intelligence. However, the founding fathers went beyond that to an even greater authority than either truth or intelligence and they have stated that in the documents they have written.
Lynn P. Tilby
They were in covenant with God?
GARBAGE!!!
They were rebellious Diests who despized the Church which our Lord Jesus Christ established in His Blood upon the Rock of St. Peter. The book of Hebrews clearly shows Jesus as the Great High Priest offering YOM KIPPUR for the congregation of the New Covenant, aka, the Church. For 1500 years, until the despicable Protestant rebellion, (Gal. 5: 20) there was but one Church, East and West. Protestantism was unknown and heretics came and went, but the Church remained because Christ ever lives to intercede for Her. (Heb. 9 & 10).
I am amazed at how Protestants want to try to claim the covenant as their own when the Sacred Scriptures will allow no such thing. I am even more amazed Evangelicals who wish to smear the veneer of Christianity over the God hating Diests of the eighteenth century. The facts are there for anyone who wishes to see. The majority of the signers of the Declaration of Independence were MASONS!!!! The Masonic Order HATES Christianity and wants nothing to do with the Lordship of Jesus Christ over the world through His one, holy, catholic, and apostolic Church. The writings of the Founding Fathers show that they had only a passing reference to “god” in their writings, enough to satisfy their warped and depraved consciences. They were thoroughgoing humanists, rebels against legitimate authority (even if that authority was taxing them without representation) and they in no way mentioned the Name above all names, that of the Lord Jesus Christ, in their writings. They spoke of some amorphous diety named “god”, which could mean anything to anyone. When you use the name of Jesus, there is no doubt of Whom you are talking and Who is Lord over all!!!
Christ’s covenant of blood was made for His Church. There was only one Church established from the beginning, not the 30,000 + of Evangelicalism!!! By the third century, that single Church was called “Catholic” (katholicos in Greek) and was the same everywhere.
Anyone who wishes to discuss this with me is invited to write to eahara@comcast.net.
Ed,
As a former Catholic and presently a Mason, I will tell you that there is no enmity from the Masonic side of the equation. Masonry speaks of ONE God and refers to that Diety as ‘The Great Architect of The Universe’, a non-denominational title. Those who tie the Masons in with the Kinghts Templar know the story of the Pope and “Philip the Fair” of France conspiring to hold an inquisition and took over the Knights Templar’s monastarys and holdings (they were the international bankers of Christendom during the Crusades, providing safe passage and a source of funds at the end of the journey). The Pope and Phillip wanted the money (both were in serious debt). Like the Spanish Inquisition, torture was part of the questioning technique, and many died. Jacques DeMolay (as we know him) was the head of the Order and was burned at the stake along with many others.
Did that inspire love for someone who was heading the Church of Christ? Did it lend itself to trusting the Head of State? I think not. Be of good cheer, though. Hitler, Stalin, Mussolini and other tyrannical figures hate Masons to this day. The signers of both the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution knew their history, including one branch of a religion murdering another branch because they were “heritics” and political tyranny did similar things to those with a different point of view. When we Masons take our ‘oath’ is is on a “Volume of Sacred Law” be it The Bible, Scriptures, the Bhagavad Gita, etc (at the aspirant’s choice) and professing to that Highest Diety that we will do our best to exeplify the moral teachings of Masonry (Prudence, Justice, Fortitude, Temperance, etc, etc, etc.). You cannot be an athiest and be a Mason.
The Founders were revered and respected men, probably in part because they DID TRY to walk uprightly before their God and in their community. Forgive them for being human and sometimes failing.
A man becoming a Mason is no longer excommunicated by the Catholic Church, and the Pope recinded the letter of excommunication of the Knights Templar some time ago.
Masonry considers itself a “Brotherhood” bringing together those of good character who might otherwise stand apart.
Mr. Oly –
You have been vastly misinformed in several areas, but I will address just one:
From the CONGREGATION FOR THE DOCTRINE OF THE FAITH
DECLARATION ON MASONIC ASSOCIATIONS
It has been asked whether there has been any change in the Church’s decision in regard to Masonic associations since the new Code of Canon Law does not mention them expressly, unlike the previous Code.
This Sacred Congregation is in a position to reply that this circumstance in due to an editorial criterion which was followed also in the case of other associations likewise unmentioned inasmuch as they are contained in wider categories.
Therefore the Church’s negative judgment in regard to Masonic association remains unchanged since their principles have always been considered irreconcilable with the doctrine of the Church and therefore membership in them remains forbidden. The faithful who enrol in Masonic associations are in a state of grave sin and may not receive Holy Communion.
It is not within the competence of local ecclesiastical authorities to give a judgment on the nature of Masonic associations which would imply a derogation from what has been decided above, and this in line with the Declaration of this Sacred Congregation issued on 17 February 1981 (cf. AAS 73 1981 pp. 240-241; English language edition of L’Osservatore Romano, 9 March 1981).
In an audience granted to the undersigned Cardinal Prefect, the Supreme Pontiff John Paul II approved and ordered the publication of this Declaration which had been decided in an ordinary meeting of this Sacred Congregation.
Rome, from the Office of the Sacred Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, 26 November 1983.
Joseph Card. RATZINGER
Prefect
In other words, Masons are still excommunicated.
So much for an organization that claims to honor “truth”…
And you are still on your way to hell as an apostate, a Mason, and someone who has depised the Church that Jesus left mankind for our salvation. If I were you, I would seriously consider repenting before it is too late.
how is the Catholic church the ‘church Jesus left’? It is the church of man. setup by the romans, the same romans who executed him.
@bloodyrich — If you truly wish an answer, you may contact me at eahara@comcast.net. This type of forum is far too truncated for an at length answer. I will say that we find the word “church” being referred to by Jesus and the Apostles in the first century, and we later on see the men who were discipled by those apostles leading the Church. These are men such as St. Polycarp, St. Iranaeus, and St. Clement of Rome. Their lineage goes all the way back to the Apostles themselves. The idea that the Church was either invented or paganized by the Roman society in which it found itself has no basis in reality. There are numerous writings extant that have shown that the Church existed long before the Romans under Constantine stopped persecuting it and Rome became the capital of the Christian Faith.
Evangelicalism, on the other hand, can at best trace itself back to C. G. Finney and his “new methods of evangelization” which turned the reverence of the Church service in to pretty much a circus. Prior to 1517 and Luther’s rebellion, there was not even a hint of anything other than the one Church which our Lord established. This Church existed in both East and West for 1500 years without any of the Protestant doctrines having any entrance into them. It was not until Luther and Calvin began to write that such ideas as “believer’s baptism”. “once saved — always saved” and “sola fide” appeared in the realm of Christianity. They were simply unknown prior to those years.
If you belong to a denomination, I can give you the date that your denomination started. That is not so with the Catholic Church, since it was started by Christ Himself upon the Rock of St. Peter.
I would look forward to conversing with you.