Comments on: More Colleges Exposed in Widespread Pay-to-Read-Books Scam

By: Arial

Arial — Sun, 21 Apr 2013 17:11:24 +0000

College is NOT the only way to get ‘training’. College is learning to hold information in short term memory and apply the right answers to questions. Read a narrative and get the main point. Be shown a formula or strategy and and apply it.

Welcome to being an adult, applying common sense, using basic competency and working.

If anything; it denounces our country, increases country and personal debts, grammar skills, confidence, ability to reason and critical thinking.

I have attended 4 colleges and hit Dean List status but cannot lie to myself anymore about college. It is a business and it refuts common sense and critical thinking.

I do not care about a teachers ideology about a topic. I will get the books free like I do at the library and or amazon. I do the critical thinking questions myself while I apply new concepts to real life. Any social sciences context is best learned by practice and experience. Business, marketing, sales, office manegement, and the like cannot be taught. Get a job or volunteer. There are so many more areas of education where experience is th ebulk of getting skills and expertise.

Trade schools make more sense to me.

By: Arial

Arial — Sun, 21 Apr 2013 17:00:47 +0000

How did the student get tested? How did the student get the gpa?

What did they retain?

Who did or did not help with homework?

How much is common knowledge and common sense?

Pull out their transcrips and question them on every class they got ‘credit’ for.

make them give you 5 factors beyond common sense and common knowledge for every class. Ask them to elborate on each 5 factors and explain what is relates to in real life.

By: HaHaHa

HaHaHa — Tue, 16 Oct 2012 16:38:58 +0000

hollyb – confusedreader must be one of those who fell for the above mentioned ponzi scheme; though the type of schools discussed in the article may teach you to READ, few of them teach you to actually THINK!

By: hollyb

hollyb — Fri, 22 Jun 2012 21:42:16 +0000

Dear Confused,
If you look at the tags for the article, you will see satire and way off the grid. Maybe this will help you realize why you cannot find said website.

By: ConfusedReader

ConfusedReader — Tue, 12 Jun 2012 21:31:29 +0000

I’d like to see some real evidence on this article. I can’t find anything on Center for National Auditing (no websites, no reports, no articles, nothing.). Where’s the audit findings?

I can’t find websites for: New Suffolk Tech,
Westchester College (there’s College of Westchester and Westchester CC, but no Westchester College…), Illinois-Brace College, Bremerton-South University, Westbridge College, West State College. (BTW: I think that’s ALL of the colleges that you have “quoted” people from.)

“The previous set of audits led to the indictment and closure of thirty-seven colleges.” Where’s the proof? Where are your sources of information?

This seems hokey and bogus to me.

By: GrunkleMike

GrunkleMike — Tue, 12 Jun 2012 18:15:31 +0000

I believe in the old adage: “the proof is in the pudding.” Does not a College Degree still indicate specialized training? And if a potential employer wants more details, are not transcripts available? If the whole idea is that students are overly charged to learn, how about if a Professor’s pay was commensurate with the resultant GPA of their cumulative class group(s). i.e.the higher the percentage of 4.0′s, the closer get the closer a Prof would get to their maximum potential salary.. you know, an X=Ysq’d kind of thing. Right-didn’t get to college.. can’t you tell?

By: Student2012

Student2012 — Tue, 12 Jun 2012 10:55:03 +0000

I am currently getting close to obtaining my bachelors degree. All of my classes have been done online. It is me and the book. With my work schedule it works great. The goal of college is to learn a little and get that precious college degree in your hot little hand. I have 22 years of experience yet I get denied a job because I do not have that precious college degree. Someone else will get hired right out of college before me. It does not matter that they are dumber than a box of rocks, they are “educated” with a degree. The workplace has done this to us. You can be mad and not have a job or jump through these hoops to get a degree and get a job. It is everyone’s choice.

By: Hujonwi

Hujonwi — Tue, 12 Jun 2012 07:46:33 +0000

Your right this is not ‘way off the grid’. I worked at a big university for many years and always wondered why proffs were allowed to require a book, that they wrote, for their class.

By: soylentgreen

soylentgreen — Mon, 11 Jun 2012 22:58:36 +0000

How is this “Way off the Grid”?!? I attended several university classes where I was told to bring the textbook to class every day, along with a highlighter. The teacher then read the paragraphs that would be on the test, and then every two weeks there was a test. Is it any wonder I’m a summa cum laude? College is a complete waste of time – have you noticed that you have to have a college degree in order to do almost any job? Even flight attendant? The point of college is to indoctrinate everyone into the socialist mindset, not to educate.

If they don’t get you in college, they try in the corporate workplace. I once attended a “change management” workshop at my job, and it was all about values clarification. We were told there is no good or bad – only what we perceive. We should do what is right for us. And then they wonder why employees go into their workplaces and start shooting…

By: rb212860

rb212860 — Mon, 11 Jun 2012 21:19:40 +0000

I thought everyone knew that this was going on? The whole education system is designed around having the authority figure tell you what to think. Have you noticed that there is no more critical thinking being taught to kids? When I was in college, a handful of years ago, and a teacher started to regurgitate the reading in the guise of a ‘lecture’ I would call them out (and usually change out of their class). My favorite class was one where the teacher said that we were to read the chapter and then get into groups and discuss it amongst ourselves. I told the Dean that if I was going to pay for the book and the students were going to teach each other, I didnt want to pay for the teacher. You have to hold people accountable and understand that you are paying them, so they report to you. But, then you have to understand that you are the master of your destiny and dont have to seek ‘permission’ from the ‘authorities’.

I do like the first comment about taping lectures from the best teachers (not orators) and using those. Seems like a sensible way to streamline the system. Downside is that you might have to fire the bad teachers; and, that is akin to kicking a kitten in this country.