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Detained By Police For Taking Pictures Of A Mosque with Patrick Poole – Episode 106

Don’t for a moment think that profiling isn’t alive and well… it’s just who’s being profiled that’s the concern. It’s patriotic Americans, investigating Islamic extremism, who are being watched and detained.

Just because the powers-that-be want to hide their collective heads in the sand, pretending that Islamic goals are nothing to be concerned about, doesn’t mean there isn’t a true concern about what their ultimate goals are. From the Muslim Brotherhood’s intimate access to the White House through several administrations to FBI training materials being purged of anything remotely critical of Islam, average Americans have to ask…

What is going on?

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Join Bill Heid and our guest, Patrick Poole, a national security and terrorism expert, as they discuss this infiltration of Islamic ideology into mainstream American thought and practice, from Islamic clerics hiding in our heartland to the ones striding boldly down the corridors of various agencies and committees in Washington DC.

In this episode:

  • The jihad against America continues – from within
  • Sharia law—coming to a town near you?
  • Who owns our news media?
  • The Muslim Brotherhood’s political access through several administrations
  • And more…
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18 comments

  1. Send this too your reps, state and local.

  2. I am dismayed when people attack my Christian faith by picking out the worst actions of Christians over the centuries (from the Inquisition on down) and claiming that these clearly manifest the nature of Christianity. I am similarly distressed when people attack others’ faiths, including Islam, by a similar process. Yes, there are people who use the Islamic faith to justify horrific actions. The same is true of the faith that readers of this site are likely to share. There are also Muslims and Christians who are laboring sincerely to love and serve God and love and care for their neighbors.

    When I think of Muslims I think first of those I have met. I think of people from a nearby mosque who devote their time to working for interreligious peace and understanding, and also to children’s literacy. I think of the girl from Bangladesh who spent a long day working hard in my garden to help grow food for a Christian soup kitchen, though she herself was not eating because it was the time of the Ramadan fast. She talked with me about her ambition of learning public health and sustainable development here and taking these skills back to help poor people in her country, motivated by her faith.

    Christians and Muslims are worshippers of the same God. We interpret some of His teachings differently–as differing Christian sects also do. Please let’s not speak hatefully of them.

    • We do not worship the same god. Our differences are not disagreements on minor issues. Being a loving, generous and good person does not save you. Your eternal destiny depends on getting this right. Please read “More Than a Prophet” by Emir Fethi Caner and Ergun Mehmet Caner.

      • Dorthy,
        Muslims and Christians do worship the same God, the difference is that Muslims do not believe that Jesus is the Messiah. They believe he was just another prophet. Muslims also believe that Muhammad was the last prophet of God. So if the believe that Jesus was a prophet of God and that Muhammad is the restorer of the monotheistic faith of Adam, Noah, Abraham, Moses, Jesus and others then it’s the same God as Christians.

        The Clarifier

    • The actions of the Muslim and the Christian can be hypocritical so I would suggest you revert to the text they live by to compair the religions. i.e. the Bible or the Koran. Each text tells the person how to live, how to get to heaven etc. I personally have seen 44 texts in the Koran which tell the believer to kill or commit violence upon the unbeliever. There are no such texts in the bible. The bible tells the believer to love all and to try and convert them to Christianity by love and being a good example. The Koran says convert – or die by the sword, and yet they self procliam themselves to be the religion of peace! Of all the religions on earth, Islam is the only one I have found that says convert or die in thier holy text, for that reason defacto they are the enemy of all.

      • I’ve seen passages in the Koran which allow the killing of unbelievers–almost always it’s specified that this is lawful if, and only if, if they are trying to kill you. I agree, that’s a less demanding standard of peaceableness than what Jesus set, and I agree with Jesus’ standard; but the Koran’s is a rather higher standard than what many Christian bodies have held to.

        There are also many passages in the Koran enjoining respect for the “People of the Book:” (i.e. Jews and Christians) and stating that they can be saved without conversion by integrity and good works.

        And there are passages in the Bible which enjoin the stoning of lawbreakers of various sorts. Neither Christians nor Jews practice or want to be judged by these any longer.

    • Jehovah and Allah are not the same.

      Sustainable development is a UN pipe dream for control.

  3. I can also understand police concern, I think. In the aftermath of the 9-11 attacks the local Sikh temple, dedicated to prayer and the teaching of nonviolence, was burned down. Many Muslims reported harassment . So did some non-Muslim people who were insulted or beaten up for “looking like Arabs”. I think that any group of people who face more than usual harassment may require more than usual police protection.

  4. The Muslims think nothing of killing each other! They use their damned sheria law to stone and rape and maim and kill! They reduce their women (50% of their population) to child bearing slaves! Don’t listen to their words. Look at the facts showing what they have done and are doing in the name of their so called religion!

    • Yes. Horrible things have been done in the name of Islam, and in accordance with one interpretation of sharia law. Likewise in the name of Christianity. I listen to what people here say about Islam and I hear strong echoes of what some nonbelieving friends (not Muslims; agnostics/atheists) say to me about Christianity–about the violence that has been done in its name, about the poor record some Christian groups and leaders have on women’s rights. What they say is true, so far as it goes. I grieve that.
      But the ‘Christians’ who beat up gay kids and shoot abortion doctors, and the earlier Christians who forced some people to die or convert, and the Christians who have committed atrocities on both sides of the Troubles, do not define my religion. It is also the religion of Saint Francis and Mother Teresa and Dag Hammarskjold and thousands of decent ordinary people trying to live their lives and help their families and their neighbors. I am still a Christian (or at least trying to be one), and proud to be. the same thing holds for Islam, I believe.
      …Do you know any Muslims personally?

  5. What about in the koran where it says that it is okay to lie or deceive the infidel (we Christians)? I do not trust those who says it is okay to lie to others to further your own interest. Besides if we Christians are such bad people then why is it they all want to live in the United States? After all this nation was founded on Christian principles. Move back to their own land.

    • You can pick horrible bits out of the Bible or the Koran, or maybe any holy text. Especially if you take them out of context. As I said elsewhere, there are many commandments in the Koran to treat Jews and Christians with kindness and honor–so long as they do the same to you. Again, I realize this is not what Jesus taught. I prefer Jesus’ teaching. Perhaps we would also be wise to remember some of Jesus’ words about condemning other people….

  6. Face it, they are here for only one reason and they won’t stop till they get it. They are used to bloodshed and we have been pampered here on American soil and want to believe it’s all good. IT IS NOT ALL GOOD AND WE ARE IN FOR IT!!!!!!!!!!

    • Neither all good nor all evil–that holds for Christians and Muslims. I wish you knew some of the Muslims I knew who spend their lives tending patients, taking in refugees, teaching children…you know, making a decent life, as most of us hope to do.
      Sure, the headlines are usually about those who commit acts of violence. How often does decency make the headlines?

      • Finally, a word worth remembering.

        Decency is not News. It does not make the headlines.

        Remember that the next time you want to say that xyz is in the News and is an example of how horrible abc is.
        You might also consider that history as it is taught is for the most part a record of wars.

  7. All argument(s) aside:

    Has anyone else tried to link this page to their facebook account?

    I saw it when I first “liked” it….its no longer there.

  8. I don’t proclaim myself an expert, but only comment on what I’ve seen in print and heard in discussion.
    First, I see a differentiation between “radical” Muslims and Muslims. “Christianity” has had its share of radicals, and of course, religion by violence does not make one a peaceful religion. Certainly, “Christian” by definition (“Christ-Like”) is in direct contrast to religion by force. It’s a decision one must make on their own, and to be “Christ-like” is to teach this way in love. So I would say those radicals that killed mercilessly in the name of Christ, were professing to be Christians, but their signs said otherwise.
    I’ve seen and heard both sides of the story that interpret the Koran as religion by force. By the same token, as has been mentioned here, I’ve known Muslim people personally that would go out of their way to help someone, their religion or another.
    My problem is part of what is being discussed in the podcast, which is that our country (legal system, Christian faith, public displays of faith) are being systematically being put down, called “unacceptable” while Muslim beliefs are systematically being forced into the system, trying to be made “acceptable”.
    There was a book published some time ago, called “Secrets of the Ninja”, in which it stated that to win a war with a country, you don’t need weapons, you need to destroy (or “conquer”) it from the inside. Turn the country against its leaders, break down the belief structure, etc. The country will fall apart (or be taken over) from within.
    We need to continue adhere to our countries beliefs, laws, constitution and principles, and not be subject to forced changes by another faith that denies these concepts. We need to see it, not close blind eyes to it and say it’s someone elses constitutional right to change them. It doesn’t matter what faith it is… really.

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