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5 Myths Debunked About the Flu Shot with Megan Pond – Episode 074

Today’s episode of Off the Grid Radio is for anyone who is concerned about their health, especially as the government pushes the flu vaccine during what is normally termed “flu” season. We have Megan Pond, co-founder of the VaxTruth.org, an organization founded to bring the truth of vaccines to the American people.

There are 5 major myths that surround the influenza vaccine, and it’s incumbent upon everyone to find out the truth in order to make more informed and better choices in the medical care and vaccines you receive.

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In this episode:

  • The government says there are no measurable amounts of mercury in vaccines anymore… is that true?
  • The one vitamin that is proven to prevent the flu…
  • Does the flu shot really prevent the flu?
  • How many lives has the flu shot really saved?

And more…

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57 comments

  1. One has to be especially cautious today, since the Supreme Court so unwisely gave immunity to the vaccine manufacturers and we can no longer sue for damages whenever we or our families are injured by taking it. It’s really best in this case to just say NO to drugs!

    • The only entity in the United States to not have accountability. : ( When accountability is taken away, there is no telling what they will do or allow.

      The government began to pay for vaccine injuries starting in the mid 1980s (though the Vaccine Compensation Program) because prior to that, people that were vaccine injured sued the company that manufactured the vaccine and won millions of dollars. The vaccine companies went to the government and said, “Hey! We’re getting sued left and right! We can’t afford this, we’re not making vaccines anymore.” So the government allowed the VCP bill to be passed that created the program, funded by vaccine taxes and taxpayers, to pay for vaccine injuries. So far just this year, 2011 (that isn’t even over yet) over 146 million dollars has been paid out to individuals of vaccine injury.

    • Vaccine injuries can be compensated, although the process is not easy or simple. This is based upon the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act (1986). This Act included a national system to collect and evaluate the reports of possible adverse events to the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS), which is a passive surveillance system that relies on physicians, healthcare providers, parents and vaccine manufactures to summit reports of adverse reactions. In 1993, Dr. David Kessler, a former head of the FDA, said that only about one percent of serious adverse events are reported.

  2. It’s not just flu vaccine anymore. I went to my doctor for my regular exam and not only are they pushing
    the flu vaccine but pheumonia and get this whooping cough.
    Any thoughts on this I’d love to read if any have experienced the same on this.

    • I do know thaat whooping cough is on the rise. With unvaccinated children and adults entering the US it is becoming a problem. Doctors are now trying to get adults to have booters in order to protect children. Adults general fight the disease off but infants and children have a very hard time with it and can die from whooping cough.

      I dont know why they are pushing pneumo vaccines. The interesting fact about thee flu vaccine is that I just got a letter from the department of Health where i live and they said that the flu vaccine is the same formula (same strain provention) as last year. So why do we need it again? Is it a booter? It does not make sence to me at all.

      • I think the reason why “they” are trying to push vaccines on the public is because “they” have an agenda (agenda 21, etc.) and it is to break down the immune system of the human body where people will be messed up and then their body won’t be able to heal, the way God intended for the body to be able to do. The human body has the miraculous ability to heal itself when given the right nutrients. “They” know this, but they don’t want everyone to be healthy……”they” want to get rid of people, and if you notice, a huge percentage of the corn,soy,cottonseed, etc. is now GMO and is really bad for your body. Also the FDA forces companies to use growth hormones and antibiotics in (meat, milk), which is also bad for the natural body. It is control of the masses for “their” Agendas. To read more on gmo’s check http://www.livehealthyforless.com

      • Zondilee –

        Whooping cough is not on the rise from unvaccinated people. 86% of the people that have contracted pertussis so far have been fully vaccinated against it. So clearly, this is not an “unvaccinated children” problem. It’s become clear that the whooping cough vaccine is 100% ineffective.

        You have also caught onto something that most people don’t know about. The flu vaccine this year IS the same as last year. The exact same strains, everything. So why in the world would we need to take it again?? According to the CDC, the flu vaccine “wears off” after just a few months, so that’s why we’re supposed to get this one again. But, if that’s true, then that means EVER vaccine is ineffective. The flu vaccine is made exactly the same as all of the other vaccines we give our children and ourselves. It uses many of the same chemicals, adjuvants, a dead virus, etc. So if the flu vaccine wears off after just a few months, the we can easily assume that every other vaccine wears off in just a few months, rendering it ineffective. So all of these vaccines we are giving our children are useless.

        • Do not assume, ask your doctor and do research. Assuming can get your kid killed. For some time we didn’t have to worry. But with illegal everywhere these days and their never having been screened for contagious diseaes, you can be exposed.

    • Whooping cough, like smallpox, TB, plague and other diseases long eraridcated in the US may be making a comeback in the US because of illegals who come into the country without medical checks.

      I personally have never gotten a flu shot, because I’ve heard of too many people getting sick after they had them. These days, with all the illegals around, I’d not allow my kid to go without the basic vaccines that are required for school. I personally know people who contracted TB from illegal students in their class.

  3. At Your County Health Department, you can go there and ask for a religious excemption for your child from having to have vaccines to get into school. I did this for my child, and he got into school without having to have vaccines. He has NEVER had a vaccine in his life, and he is now 22 years old. The worse thing he ever picked up was chickenpox, which breaks out in little bumps all over the body. He has had the flu before, but with chicken soup, and lots of fluids, vitamin C, ecchinacea, he got over it no problem. There is a homeopathic preventive called oscillococcinum which you can get at some grocery stores, and as soon as you feel symptoms of the flu….headache, body ache, etc. you start taking this, and it tells you to take one every 6 hours until symptoms subside. If you take it before you get full blown flu, it will knock it out before it takes hold.

  4. BOB – I’d like to share my experience about the Whooping Cough vaccine…
    On April 21, 2008 my cat bit my hand. The next day, I had a red line going up my arm, so I HAD to get to Urgent Care, asap! They insisted I get a Tetanus shot, and gave me the new Tdap with Pertussis (Whooping Cough). I was weeks from being 55 years old, but soon felt 75 or even older, as I was exhausted all the time and rapidly lost muscle tone – to the point that I was winded and sore going up just one flight of stairs. Getting through the work day was difficult.
    While I had already sworn off ever getting another flu shot, it took me a little while to connect the dots between the way I was feeling and the Tetanus shot. A year later, I learned about the ability of Cilantro to remove mercury from your system and slowly got my health back. I must say that it has really only been about the past 6 months or so that I have gotten my muscle tone back, THREE YEARS after the shot!
    Here is a link for the Pesto recipe that I used, but I will say that I usually used real Parmesan or Asiago, not the vegan version…
    http://www.healthdiaries.com/eatthis/cilantro-chelation-therapy-heavy-metal-detox.html
    I will NEVER willingly get another shot, and I won’t give anything but the mandated rabies shots for my pets, either! (I’d like to skip that, too, but I don’t think it’s possible.)

    • Same thing happened to me. However, it was not a cat injury but a stupid act on my part. I went to the same sort of medical facility and they PRESSURED me to get this tetanus shot w/the added whooping cough nonsense and I have not felt up-to-par since. I will start ingesting cilantro; thanx for the tip.

      We all need to say NO to anything the government is pushing….

      • I see where you are coming from.
        I became ill after a Hep B vaccination I was required to get for work, was told I had MS and was given shots for the MS to prevent an attack. Well, I’ve never had flu shots or anything but childhood shots and a tetanus shot years ago. While on the Avonex, for the MS, i had a major exacerbation and now I am totally disabled.
        My daughter had problems as a baby with the pertussis shot so my doctor wisely took that out of her shots. She’s never had the flu, never had a flu shot and knows how to eat healthy balanced meals.
        The same doctor told me not to get the lyme vaccine. Just get checked every year because I worked outside.
        I think it’s time to just say “NO”.
        There are so many pharmaceutical companies popping up and then going out of business, and so much medication coming in from out of the country……

    • Dottie – I am sorry for your experience. Unfortunately, as I’m sure you know, you aren’t the only one.

      For many years now (at least 20) I have refused flu vaccinations for myself and family. I have refused to get my children repeated vaccinations too. And, unless laws have changed, it’s not required to vaccinate your children in order to get them into school. The school vaccination form is two sided. The reverse side is the one you fill out if you have objections to getting all those vaccinations. The schools will fight you on it, but when my children were in school, they had to accept them.

      I found that my children were much healthier then their vaccinated friends. The companies that are producing the vaccinations have lobbiests that lobby congress to make laws requiring the public to get vaccinated. A great money-making scheme.

      I avoid them at all costs….I’m a nurse. I have not received a flu shot during my career and I have had less sick days than my peers.

  5. BTW – the only reason that Whooping Cough is on the rise is because VACCINATED people are shedding the germs like Typhoid Mary and spreading it!

  6. ok name of vitamin that can prevent flu

    • Why ask about vitamin to prevent flu? There are several things one can do. Wash your hands. Take Vitamin C to build resistance. I use a product called Viroid when I have felt like I might be getting flu symptoms. Within a couple of hours symptoms are gone. I worked with several doctors in a large hospital. Many of them would not take the flu shots, saying they always felt bad for weeks or more afterward. I am 76 years old, still working. Will not take flu shots or pneumovax. A couple of years ago, when many of the people with whom I now work had a cough for 3 months, I did not. Have not had a cold in years. For cold prevention, I take Echinaecea (sp?) follow the directions.

      • You are so smart! Keep up the good work. I do the same and have managed to keep my husband and I healthy through flu season.

      • VITAMIN D3 5,000 IU HELPS ME. SOMETIMES I GET MORE. I READ THAT A PERSON WHO IS OUT IN THE SUN ALL DAY LONG GETS AT LEAST 55,000+ IUs. MOST DOCTORS PRESCRIBE 2,500 IU. WITH GOD’S HELP, IT TAKES CARE OF ME AND MY FAMILY FOR YEARS NOW WITHOUT THE DARNED FLU SHOTS. FLU SHOTS IS A PAINFUL, SLOW BUT SURE PROCESS TO KILL PEOPLE, THE ELDERLY ESPECIALLY SO THEY CAN STOP GIVING OLD PEOPLE THEIR SOCIAL SECURITY CHECKS, ETC. THE “NEW WORLD ORDER,” THE ADMNISTRATION AND THE FDA, IN MY OPINION, WORK TOGETHER TO REALIZE THEIR DREAM OF PRACTISING “POPULATION CONTROL.” i HAVE JUST WATCHED A VIDEO ABOUT A MOTHER’S HORROR AFTER HER BEAUTIFUL BABY GIRL WAS GIVEN THE SHOT FOR ANTI-PERTUSIS OR WHOOPING COUGH. SINCE THEN, THE BABY HAD SEIZURES, ETC. AND HER BRAIN WAS TOTALLY DAMAGED. WHEN THEY STARTED TO GIVE BABIES AND ALL CHILDREN THE H1N1 VACCINE BECAUSE THEY SAID THEY FEARED A PANDEMIC, THE BABIES, OF COURSE SPREAD THE VIRUS TO THEIR FAMILIES BECAUSE WHAT THEY DID WAS SQUIRT THE NOSES OF THOSE BABIES WITH LIVE VIRUSES IN THE OPEN AND READILY GETS OUT OF THE BABIES’ NOSES, EVERYBODY AROUND THE BABY GOT IT. MOST PARENTS NOW DONT WANT THEIR BABIES GIVEN VACCINES, BUT IN ORDER TO SPREAD THE FLU, ETC. AROUND, THEY THOUGHT OF GIVING THEM THE LIVE VIRUSES THROUGH THE BABIES’ NOSES. THE DEMOCRAPS CANT SLEEP AT NIGHT ESPECIALLY HARRY REID BECAUSE ABORTIONS AND PARTIAL BIRTH ABORTIONS ARE SOMEWHAT UNDER CONTROL RIGHT NOW DUE TO STATES PASSING LAWS AGAINST ABORTIONS & PARTIAL BIRTH ABORTIONS. SO NOW SINCE THEY CANT MURDER MOST BABIES VIA ABORTIONS, THEY GET AFTER THOSE ALREADY BORN, HENCE THEY DEVELOPED THESE DEBILITATING VACCINES GIVEN VIA THE BABIES’/CHILDREN’S NOSES. JUST MY OPINION, BUT I DO BELIEVE THIS WAY THEY SPREAD AROUND THE VIRUSES/FLU, ETC. I HOPE PARENTS AND EVERYBODY WILL GO UP IN ARMS TO COMPLAIN AND AVOID HAVING THEIR BABIES/YOUNG CHILDREN GIVEN ANY KIND OF FLU SHOTS. JUST TAKE GOOD CARE OF YOUR KIDS, GIVE THEM THE RIGHT FOOD TO EAT AND AVOID CROWDS SO THEY DONT GET ANY GERMS FROM OTHER PEOPLE. AT FIRST VACCINES WERE WORSHIPPED AS LIFE SAVERS AND THE ONLY WAY TO HELP US AVOID GETTING SICK, BUT NOW, I THINK, THESE ARE THE WAYS FOR GOVERNMENT TO KILL EVERYONE TO ACHIEVE WHAT THE NEW WORLD ORDER WANTS. GOD BLESS GOD. GOD BLESS AMERICA AND ALL AMERICANS. IN GOD WE TRUST !!!!

      • Most important thing anyone can do is to wash your hands! Not for just a few seconds, the person should be able to sing two stanza of “Happy Birthday to You” while they are washing their hands. Wash in-between fingers, the top of your hands and around your fingernails as well as under your fingernails. Use Clorox or Lysol wipes on doorknobs, lightswitches etc. Don’t use a dish towel in the kitchen to dry your hands, use paper towels.

        • So true. My mother was an RN and we never went to the doctor. We were always washing our hands. Now I think my daughter is a bit of a germaphobe but she’s been very healthy, even with being around people who are sick and never cover their mouths when they cough. Ugh.
          Actually, a well-balanced mega multiple vitamin that you can get from local reputable health stores (not the stuff at pharmacies) should cover everything, with extra C during flu, cold, and strep seasons.

    • The vitamin to prevent the Flu is VITAMIN D.

    • Vitamin D3 to prevent flu- suggest 3,000 iu/daily if possible to prevent. Use in capsule form (not a hard pill that won’t dissolve), so your body will absorb it. It’s a good idea to take this vitamin daily for many reasons anyway- helps calcium absorb better for bone health, weight management, etc.

    • Vitamin D prevents colds, flu, etc.

  7. Wow Dottie, I thank you for your comments and explaining your bad experience. This is serious business, I am so glad I refused the shots.
    I am almost 60 yrs old and never had a flu shot and don’t intend to either, that includes whooping cough
    and anything else for that matter.
    Interesting topic, thanks for all the comments.

  8. I wouldn’t miss anything. Would love the freedom.

  9. The Vitamin that prevents the flu is Vitamin D. The flu is nothing more than a Vitamin D deficiency. Get your vitamin D blood level checked. If it’s lower than 50…..start taking a minimum of 5,000 I.U.s of Vitamin D per day. Also…if possible…be out in the sun at least 15 minutes per day….God’s Vit. D from the sun is even better than pill form. If your level is in the 50s….keep popping those Vit. D pills. You want your level between 70 and 80 for optimum immunity. Highly recommend Dr. Mercola’s website and facebook page. Lots of good info.

    • Make sure that the vitamin D you get is D3. Most of the multivitamins have the cheap version D2 which is not nearly as good for you. Also, eating lots of fresh veggies and fruits,cut out most of the sugar, stay away from processed foods, find someone who raises free range chickens to buy eggs from, beef that has been grass fed, and if you use milk, find someone who raises their dairy herd naturally, without growth hormones and antibiotics and lets them graze on grass, like they are supposed to.The old ways of raising food, for the most part were best. Factory farms that raise our chickens, eggs , food, and milk have been detrimental to our health and are causing many problems.Yes, it is more work, but well worth it.

    • Ritch –

      Completely agree. Make sure it’s vitamin D3, and the recommended amount is 1,000 I.U. for every 25 pounds of weight. So average children should be getting at least 2,000 I.U. Adults can take up to 10,000 I.U.

  10. 7 years ago I recieved back to back flu and tetnus shots and I swear that they have played hell with my short term memory every sense.
    The people of this county have to wake up to the fact that they are being posioned daily. Fluoride in your water is a industrial waste poison. Pharamutical Fluoride put into your toothpaste and prescription drugs is just as posion. In grocery stores you can now buy plastic jugs filled with water enriched with fluoride for mixing baby formula.
    All silver dental fillings are 50% mercury that leechs into your body 24/7. Most vaccines contain thimerasol which is a strong mercury preservative, alum. etc.
    For the sake of your health do some in-depth research! Write about it talk about it and work for honest politicians that will do something about it.
    Elect Doctor Ron Paul for President and a slew of like minded Patriots to the House and Senate and put a stop to lthis maddness.

    • Everything you said George, I agree with you 100!

    • I’m so glad you brought that up. Many years ago I thinking how ridiculous fluoride in the water is .
      I remember hearing about a whole herd of cattle in the mid-west that were poisoned and died because of the fluoride in the water.GEEZ. It’s already in toothpaste and mouthwash, why would we want to drink it!!!

  11. Ii will be somewhat in disagreement with this topic. In 1984 I had a severe case of flu (it was the worst case of the flu I had even experienced) in my 11th week of a pregnancy, the time when tooth enamel formation starts to occur. Even though she was breastfed and not fed junk food,, she had 10 baby root canals when she was 15 months old attributable to poor enamel formation. She also displayed a couple of “soft neurological” signs. When the flu vaccines became available I started taking them; also because I am a therapist who works with medically fragile adults in group homes. It is mandated for staff and the clients unless there is an allergy to the ingredients in the vaccine. I have not had a case of the seasonal flu since 1984 and my clients also have not had the seasonal flu’s either. Also they are all G tube fed . Since 2003, we have only lost one client; from a fatal genetic degenerative disease and these clients are out in the public 5 days a week.

    • That’s great to see you and your clients are so healthy! However, studies are very clear that the flu shot does not decrease the number of flu deaths per year, and a recent article just came out that showed it isn’t helping elderly people from contracting the flu.

      Just because you have taken the flu shot every year since 1984 does not mean that it’s the shot that prevented it. (Ever heard of “correlation does not imply causation?”)

      It’s very clear through several studies that the flu shot is not effective.

      • The flu virus mutates so rapidly that the shots for last year’s flu may not even be effective. Look how fast the N1H1 took hold, and lots of people had flu shots for the previous version.

    • MMS is correct:

      “Thousands of Americans died from H1N1 even after receiving vaccine shots

      ‘But here’s the part you’re NOT being told.

      “The CDC statistics lie by omission. They do not reveal the single most important piece of information about H1N1 vaccines: How many of the people who died from the swine flu had already been vaccinated?

      “Many who died had already been vaccinated

      “The CDC is intentionally not tracking how many of the dead were previously vaccinated. They want you (and mainstream media journalists) to mistakenly believe that ZERO deaths occurred in those who were vaccinated. But this is blatantly false. Being vaccinated against H1N1 swine flu offers absolutely no reduction in mortality from swine flu infections.

      “And that means roughly 20% of the 11,160 Americans who died from the swine flu were probably already vaccinated against swine flu. That comes to around 2,200 deaths in people who were vaccinated!

      “How do I know that swine flu vaccines don’t reduce infection mortality? Because I’ve looked through all the randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled clinical trials that have ever been conducted on H1N1 vaccines. It didn’t take me very long, because the number of such clinical trials is ZERO.” -Mike Adams
      Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/027956_H1N1_vaccine_CDC.html#ixzz1cmJIgJlI

    • All root Canals are toxic and they hae known about it sense 1925 and covered up by a few doctors and denists. Check out the Price Foundation.

  12. If you are taking supplements, be sure you are getting D3. But the best way to get Vitamin D is to get some sunshine and let your body make its own! If you don’t use sunscreens AND you don’t use margarine and cheap veg. oils, you WON’T get skin cancer – it’s the combination of sun and oleo that is the problem.
    BTW – I second George’s suggestion to ELECT Dr. Ron Paul!!! He’s on our side, on everything from stopping the FDA raids against raw milk to giving us back our CHOICE on medical issues like this.

  13. Do any of you have experience with employee exemptions (religious or other) to mandatory flu shots in a healthcare setting in the Commonwealth of PA? I know that PA law allows religious exemptions, but just last month, a local pediatric hospital fired 3 employees for refusing the shot. Two of those employees claimed religious exemptions. Don’t know about the other. I suspect they would win a court case. But in the meantime they are out of work. HELP!!!

    • Franp –

      unfortunately, it looks as though it’s hopeless in the medical field to be able to get out of the flu shot. The reason they started pushing it so much is because all of these articles came out saying that “Doctor’s and nurses don’t get the flu shot!!” or “Only 50% of doctor’s get the flu shot”. They felt threatened by this, so they decided to boost the numbers by requiring it to keep your job.

      We live in a sad world that’s going down fast…

  14. My husband has a co-worker whose wife kept on insisting they get the whooping cough vaccine. He said “No way!” but she marched herself down to RiteAid and got her shot. Now she is in the hospital fighting for her life diagnosed with WHOOPING COUGH!! She is 60 years old……..

    JUST SAY “NO”!

  15. “Elect Doctor Ron Paul for President and a slew of like minded Patriots to the House and Senate and put a stop to lthis maddness.”…………….AMEN, GEORGE!!

    Ron Paul 2012!

  16. One more thing…..I’m a 44 year old breast cancer survivor. Was diagnosed when I was 38 right after having my third baby.. Anyhoo….my mother still falls for all lies of the medical profession, doesn’t think there is anything wrong with our food, etc. ANYWAY….she INSISTED that I ask my oncologist if I should get the flu shot. I’m cancer-free now for six years, but as my mother says, “you don’t want to lower your immunity by getting the flu and then cancer coming back”. ANYWAY….I wasn’t going to get the flu shot no matter what the oncologist said, but I asked her just so I could say that I asked her. FROM MY ONCOLOGIST’S MOUTH…..”people don’t need the flu shot….they don’t need those antigens floating around their bodies.” She then went on to say, “IF….people start dropping dead of the flu on street corners MAYBE you could think about a shot….until then…you don’t need it”. This coming from a very good doctor who practices out of a very respected hospital in my city.

  17. IF you would all go back and read hawkeye 10s comment you will know what to do ispent 10 years in the army got the flu shot every year no choice GOT THE DAMN FLU EVERY YEAR been out for 15 years no shot no damn flu if you read the first book of the bible god created the herbs for the very purpose of keeping you heathly you dont need the damn vaccines they do you no good only harm you wake up before you all become walking robots read your bible thats what it there for……………

  18. This is just anecdotal evidence but I worked for a major copier company for 34 years and lived in Indiana’s snow belt near Lake Michigan. I touched every copier start print button in ten counties every day.
    I almost never got a cold or the flu. I think I got the flu three times in all those years.
    I credited it to fact that I was exposed to every cold and flu germ there ever was and I never get a flu shot.
    All the time running around in the slop and slush of winter.
    We also always kept the house cooler than most folks maybe around 65 or 68 degrees.

    Because I am cheap and because I think it keeps germs from surviving so easily.
    The other thing I did was wash my hands several times a day after working on each service call. Perhaps 6 times a day.

    The thing that freaked me out was the hundreds of times some jerk came and left the bathroom while I was in there and maybe 50% of the time they would wash their hands.

    FWIW
    Rich

    • I hear that.
      Our local “great and wonderful” hospital has the highest rate of Merca in the state.
      I had to go to the hospital this summer, and I went out of state.
      I dread the back surgery I have coming up. I will be taking my Lysol wipes…..

  19. carbonated water & high fructose corn syrup ,processed sugar keep calcium from being absorbed & lower your bodys immune system

  20. “Half a decade of experience in research?” Research isn’t Googling “Jenny McCarthy’s blog” about vaccines and autism.

    What qualifies this writer to be an authority on medicine?

    Listening to a “scientific” conversation between a writer with no medical expertise and a radio personality (lol) is like watching a monkey try to play a song on a piano. Sure it can bang the keys and make some noise, but it’s completely ridiculous to compare that to a pianist.

  21. Also check out Mary Tocco’s web site at http://www.childhoodshots.com it is very informative. She will also tell you about the DANGERS of vacines!

  22. I come from a medical family (3 Drs) and have some valuable information about vaccines. I also have a dvd called “vaccine nation” that has much documented information on vaccines and would be happy to send anyone that wants it. Just email me with your mailing address. Al

  23. My son will be graduating this year and the state of TX is telling us it is “mandatory” for him to have a meningitis shot! Anyone entering college under the age of 25 has to have this shot! Crazy, huh?

    • AZiggy – Even for colleges there are exemptions. I got one for not only all vaccines, but also for a TB test. Exempted from all. You should check them out!

    • yeah, AZiggy. it’s CRAZY that your child should be protected from meningitis in an environment where it is highly contagious (college campuses).

      Absolutely CRAZY.

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