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UPDATE: 10 Children Of Homeschool, Off-Grid Family Placed In Strangers’ Homes In 4 Counties

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To read the initial story about the family, click here. 

The rural Kentucky parents at the center of a custody battle that has shocked the homeschool and off-grid communities are staying upbeat and hope to get their 10 children back soon, a family friend says.

“They’re being positive. They want to get their kids back. They’re not trying to be overly critical of the authorities,” family friend Pace Ellsworth told Off The Grid News.

The 10 children were seized Wednesday from the parents, Joe and Nicole Naugler, following an anonymous tip that apparently related to their style of off-grid living. The family is also part of the “unschooling” movement, a type of homeschooling.

A hearing is scheduled for Monday. As of now, officials have placed the children with four families in four different counties, and as of Friday morning, the parents had not spoken with them. The four families are families that Kentucky’s version of CPS chose – families the Nauglers don’t know.

The ease with which sheriff deputies were able to take the kids may have been the most shocking.

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But the family has received some good news since Wednesday. The mom is out of jail after being arrested for disorderly conduct and resisting arrest. (She says she was arrested because she did not passively allow deputies to take her children.)

The Nauglers. The mom was taking the picture. Her photo is below. Image source: saveourfamily.info

The Nauglers. The mom was taking the picture. Her photo is below. Image source: saveourfamily.info

Also, CPS visited the family’s home on Friday morning and issued a good report on the living conditions, Ellsworth said. The Naugler’s attorney – considered by the family the best in the county – was present.

“CPS was very kind. They OK’d just about everything,” Ellsworth said.

Off The Grid News broke the story about the family Thursday and it soon went viral. Bill Heid, founder of Off The Grid News and owner of Solutions From Science, was so moved by the tragedy that he donated a solar generator to the Nauglers.

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Also, a GoFundMe.com fundraiser for the family for legal fees had raised $19,000 as of Friday afternoon – well more than the 10,000 goal.

The family lives in a cabin on 26 acres in Breckinridge County, about an hour southwest of Louisville.

The father manages the homestead, while the mother – who is five-months pregnant — is a pet groomer. They have a garden and raise animals.

In essence, the family is living like America’s Founding Fathers lived – an off-grid, self-sustaining, close-to-nature life.

The family may be off grid, but they aren’t anonymous. They have Internet, as well as a Facebook page dating back to 2012 where they frequently post pictures and videos of their children, animals and their off-grid life. A May 5 post showed a video of a toddler, Mosiah, learning to walk. An April 24 post showed a happy family, gathering around a campfire, roasting marshmallows.

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124 comments

  1. Are you kidding me??? Have you seen this make shift shack they live in? CPS is a joke and not protecting the children if they approved 10 kids living in this filthy hell hole!!! Just….wow!

    • There are people who live under a bridge or take their children from homeless shelter to homeless shelter. As long as their needs are being met it doesn’t matter if they live in a cave. They are simply being targeted because they are not allowing the government to tell them how to raise their children.

      • Exactly! Right on! Give those children back their normal lives!

        • I was one of those kids who grew up under bridges and in cars. We were homeless for most of my childhood. But my mother was a good mother and homeschooled us with nothing more than what was laying around. Nothing like the homeschool supplies that are available today. All 5 kids turned out to be good kids. No trouble with the law, 3 out of the 5 became engineers and a doctor. There were bad memories but mostly I remember places we stayed at with fondness. The absolute worse memories were whenever we had contact with the government or people who wanted to “help” us at any level. One thing about growing up the way we did was we all ended up valuing things and being very thrifty no matter how much we earned. None of the kids ever took out credit for anything. We saved and paid cash for all even our homes. Its not where you grow up that matters. It is how you grow up that is important.

          • I appreciate your remarks. No way we should simply allow authorities to destroy a healthy family.

        • “Normal” life????????? ARE YOU KIDDING???????

          • I am guessing that you are a “citified” individual with no clue as to what “used to be” normal…. this is no different than when I was growing up as a child… and if they have internet then they are light years ahead of where I was as a child… yes, we were poor but never knew it and my mom worked 2 jobs…. there is far more to life than to have all of the “so called” conveniences that are more of a distraction to life than enhancing it….

      • right on!…they have a right to their own beliefs as long as they are not abusing them…and feeding them..

      • We gave a homeless father and his 3 children a place to sleep for the past 3 months. I just want to say that yes, the children were happy living homeless….until they were told they had to go to school…..that’s when they balked, had anxiety attacks, etc…..the reason……they were embarassed to be homeless. They didn’t want “anyone” to know. The 15 yr old told me she just wanted to be with her Dad and was happy just staying in their car. Family has left now, still homeless, living in shelters or transitional housing until they can get Section 8 housing. Not for me to Judge, but do you think these kids will ever develop properly and become self sufficient someday?

        • Yes, I think these children will develop “properly” and they will become self-sufficient someday. Being homeless is not the same as what these children are. They may not have a great home, but they have a home, are being fed, clothed, and bathed.

        • What is the height width depth and weight of this word PROPERLY!! ? ? ? that’s right there are no demensions,because it is just an OPINION based on an individuals limited experience.(We are ALL limited- nobody knows everything) so each persons definitiuon would be different!! LEAVE PEOPLE ALONE!! if you see someone beating( not spanking- BEATING) another human being or even an animal then stop it or report it! other wise mind your own F”N business!!

        • They will actually probably be more self sufficient than most people who get a public education. If it is done right, homeschooling is superior to the education system now. I have a friend that homeschools her kids and they test above their grade level.

      • I agree with you!!! I think the parents are doing the right thing by taking their kids off-the grid, from this so called, “blessed society, of overly rated technological, pornographical, welfare infested social degradation.” These people are being discriminated against while trying to make a difference in the world by starting with their own. Prepping is viewed as insurrection;I am sorry it is not. The government supports and perpetuates debt and bankruptcy, and will never offer anyone of us a “Bell Out!” Prepping is getting back to the core values of this country, in which the social melting pot has destroyed. A home is where you are loved and every member is respected. As long as everyone is overly indulging in equal opportunity wealth, welfare, and free taking, it is considered the right thing to do! Well, it is not, it’s wrong! America’s avaricious behavior is leading this country into pit full of neanderthals. Think of what these kids have learned by living with nature instead of against nature. Botany, biology, growing and replenishing the soil are things overly indulged city kids in public school do not know. The oxymoron is that we preach saving the earth, and this good man and woman have decided to make the message their way of life by putting what’s first first–like learning to work together as a team and valuing family. When did this become against law? They have a right to teach and train their kids in the way they feel will make them successful in life. Shame on the government and the law enforcement.

      • They were stealing potable water from the neighbors so obviously the most basic needs of the children were not being met.

    • WOW! If CPS said that was a place to raise 10 children…then CPS has got a real problem. Thats a shack not fit for a dog to live in, and I hope the police and the sheriff are out there daily!!!! SICKENING!!!!!!

      • Yet, somehow CPS approved it today. What Kool-Aid are you drinking?

      • Not everybody can or wants to afford a McMansion. Turn your damn TV off for a week.

      • You don’t have to have a $300,000 dollar house and make $100,000 dollars a year . All you need is a roof over your head and food on your table and a lot of faith. If you are happy and healthy God bless you !!!! Everyone should mind their own business !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

        • This family was stealing from a neighbor and threatened her with a gun with children present. It was not an anonymous complaint–her name is simply not being shared with the media. There is no cabin on their property. Because they aren’t really willing to do the work that homesteading is, they are laying waste to the piece of land they live on–upsetting the ecological balance necessary to them and their animals. This family manages to create trouble everywhere they go. Kentucky is generally tolerant of a homesteading lifestyle so it is obvious there is more to this than a family choosing a lifestyle outside the mainstream. They are guilty of wrongdoing, not just in the eyes of the government, but also in the eyes of the community.

      • You demonstrate the dumbed down people; the poor, weak nature that these good people are protesting. You are a disease. Families like these are the cure.

    • Where/how did you see photos of their home? I’m sure most house in the US would be considered ‘shacks’ compared to the McMansions some people live in. But our ‘shacks’ ARE considered mansions by the majority of the world’s poor! Perspective.

    • Who are you to judge how someone lives? I’m sure your living conditions are disgusting to someone who thinks they are above you. There is NOTHING wrong with the way they live, and you are just a pathetic moron, who thinks that people need someone else to tell them how to live their lives. It’s idiots like you that make it easier for cps, and cops to come and take children out of happy homes, simply because you think they don’t live up to some I’ll conceived, bullshit idea that you agree with.

      • Please go save children who are being sexually abused…beaten, and starved purposefully.

        FACT: CHILDREN ARE 6 TIMES MORE LIKELY TO BE KILLED IN FOSTER CARE THEN IF THEY WERE LEFT WITH THEIR SO CALLED ABUSIVE OR NEGLECTFUL PARENTS.

        THIS WHY I STOPPED BEING A FOSTER PARENT.. 90% OF MY FOSTER CHILDREN WERE TAKEN BECAUSE MOM SMOKED A JOINT, WAS POOR OR WOULDNT MEDICATE THEIR ADHD KID.
        ONLY 2 KIDS IN 6 YEARS DID I HAVE FOR REAL ABUSE.
        ONE CHILD WAS TAKEN CUZ MOM HAD A 400$ ELECTRIC BILL ,,,SHE WORKED 9 HRS 5 DAYS A WEEK… PAID ALL THE LIGHT BILL BUT 120$ OF IT..IT WAS SHUT OFF…EX HUSBAND CALLED CPS ,SHERRIFF AND CPS REMOVED THE LITTLE GIRL. BUT TJE SORRY FATHER DIDNT WANT HIS CHILD…
        SO CPS PAID ME 424$ MONTHLY TO CARE FOR HER INSTEAD OF HELPING PAY THE HARDWORKING MOMS ELECTRIC BILL.
        AND THE MOM HAD NEVER HAD ANY PREVIOUS PROBLEMS WITH CPS
        SHE SIMPLY LOST WORK TIME DUE TO HER CAR PROBLEMS…
        TOOK CPS 7 MONTHS TO GIVE HER BACK

        SOMETHING OS WRONG

        • I know, that’s stupid of our government assistance. I was done several years back, had a 10 month old baby drawing TANC and food stamps. They wanted me to find a job even if it was $6.65(minimum wage at that time)per hour, working maybe 20 hours a week. After taxes my check would be maybe $90 but they would pay a daycare up to $150 per week to watch my child. Why not pay me the $150 weekly and let me raise my own child?

          • I don’t think I understand what you’re saying. You think that you shouldn’t have to work to raise YOUR child but the state needs to pay you to raise YOUR own child?

        • I don’t think I understand. Firstly, kids are abused in foster care. Yet you were a good foster parent and you quit. If so many children are abused in foster home, don’t you think the system needs more good foster parents?

      • It wasn’t the way they live that got them in trouble. It was threatening a neighbor with a gun when they were caught stealing from her that caused them to come under scrutiny. At least one of the children was involved in that crime.

    • Your outrage is misplaced. I don’t hear you balking about thousands of children with their families living homeless on the streets.

    • Are you kidding?? Have you ever taken your kids camping? If they have food, shelter from the rain, and warm blankets, what more could you want? I grew up with me and my older brother sleeping in bunkbeds in the horse barn….used to huddle up next to the pot belly stove for warmth in winter. Best time of my life. So sick of the rich brats in this country calling “child abuse” on things like this…ridiculous.

      • Kelly McGriffith

        Damon – completely agree. My brother and I in elementary school got bumped to sleeping on the patio (only 2 walls) when guests came for a weekend. Guess what? A year later, we were still sleeping out there. Hanging out with the dogs and crickets; what’s not to like? Dad would burn yesterday’s newspaper in the fireplace for a quick warmup in the mornings. Those were the days!

    • That make shift shack is their home. Just because it’s not fancy like yours. They are a happy family, leave them alone…wow

    • That is not a “house ” Sticks for walls. No heat. No water. Can you even imagine how cold those kids are in the winter. LOOK AT THE PICTURES. This in not a home schooling case. They are diverting your attention away from the main problem. How can anyone approve this “house’ for children to live in. Whomever did should not be allowed to work with children. Read the comments of people who say they know them. If what they say is true the children should be removed.

      • Where have you seen photos of the house these people live in? Let us see some unadulterated home photos of your home! I bet at least one person will find fault with your accommodations !

        • Go to their Facebook page using the link in the article. They have posted their own pictures of their “cabin” and it literally sticks standing next to each other with gaps between them, with an open wall on one side with the whole thing covered with a tarp roof. I wonder how well they could face a winter in that.

      • …how humans ever survived before fancy homes. Did humans always have electricity, running water, flushing toilets? Even those who lived in castles didn’t have that.
        Your need for everything modern is not needed for everyone. Humans can live just fine without all you think you need.

      • I completely disagree with you. My father and I used a wood burner instead of a furnace and our house was always warm. It was just him and I and despite what you think I was extremely happy growing up. My friends and I would sleep outside in the summer and my dad would take me camping. You my friend are missing a vital part of living that is dying with this generation. If anything these kids and “off grid families” are doing it right. These families are teaching their children hard work dedication, family values, and most important, how to service when the next civil war happens. Don’t be so quick to judge what you don’t understand.

        • It wasn’t the way they live that got them in trouble. It was threatening a neighbor with a gun when they were caught stealing from her that caused them to come under scrutiny. At least one of the children was involved in that crime.

    • The children are healthy and happy. You don’t need expensive housing to live. A solid roof and protection from the elements

    • Give me a break…have you seen some of homes where kids are left with toys and no parenting. These kids are better adjusted with good parents and learning values without owning all the $hit!!!

    • They need to give the kids back. They had no reason to take their kids from them and nice to see people living off the land again and much more people are getting back to the old ways when the gov didnt control everything. Im a country girl and learned how to servive of the the land love it. U dnt have to worry about bills or buying food for ur family cuz u grow ur own and know that no one has injected with things like u see on the news. Its bs what happened to them its sad the gov is doing this and soon they are going to do marshal law u see it everywhere.

    • They have the guts to raise their children the way they want. Some people (ehmm) do not have the guts to go against what is considered “normal” I believe our government has gone rogue and a lot of Americans with them.

      If you can do better raising your kids (if you have any) in an environment of hate, disrespect and lawlessness Kudos to you that’s your desire and no one sticks their nose in your life; even when your kids become criminals. Until then mind your damn business and let people raise their children the way they seem fit.

    • It is insane the kids were taken at all. First: They were not unhealthy. Second: they were getting educated and growing up with a father and a mother in the home. Third: They were getting fed also, so they were not starving. Forth: They had an enviroment that was safe versus the cities where protective services don’t seem to notice, even though crime, drugs, lack of parent evailability etc seems to be rampant.
      If you are not comfortable with their way of life I suggest you do go live with them. The kids were fine.

      • How well do we know them….Facebook pictures can not tell the real story ?I pray for the family it hit my heart for them but we don’t know the family .I do get the fact that they are off-grid its cool.. Government sucks I do not like them ..Do they get walfare? I know they depend on other people for money to pay for the little they have .she works what does he do for money ? I want to know the scoop before any judge about them..

    • Have you taken a minute to really look at these children? Those smiles aren’t forced, they are happy which is more than most people can say. I’ve seen children who live in 10 bedroom mansions that are not happy and they aren’t getting the most important need and that’s love. Im not saying that basic shelter and needs are not necessary because they are but, before you judge the home that someone lives in maybe you should get to know the people in it first. If the children are in danger for their lives, being abused or not getting what they need, then by all means I want what’s best for the children but in my opinion we could all take a small lesson and teach our children how to provide for their children. What if all of your electronics and “necessities” where no longer available. No grocery store in every corner? Would you survive? This family would and they would flourish. It isn’t anyone’s place to decide how you raise your children unless you are abusing or neglecting them. Many people from the “city” think that if you live in the country and live a more simple life that you are ignorant, why is that? Why do you get to decide who’s lifestyle is better? I personally would take living in the country with a family that would always love me and stand by me to many who live a “perfect life” alone. It’s a matter of choices we all make. Why wasn’t an investigation done prior to such dramatic measures being taken? What damage was done to the children when they were ripped from their lives and placed in homes that they do not know. Who is thinking of the children?? I don’t think this action was in the bat interest of the children. I’ve seen drugged out patents who mistreat their children who have nothing done because of an overworked system, this was just wrong and just wow.

    • These children are not homeless, not abused, not hungry. Many adults on their Facebook page have longingly ask the parents to adopt them.
      This is how man has lived for thousands of years.
      It’s only the last century or so we have had electricity.
      Living in a small apt. is the unnatural thing.
      Of the history of the world, only the few at the top lived in palaces and castles.

    • Just saw this story in the UK DailyMail with pictures of this family’s “home”. These people are living in squalor. Tents? Shacks? Dirt floor? It was like looking at something from some tribe in Africa with dung huts. I was all ready to flame the sheriff and authorities, but after seeing these pics and video, I would have taken those kids as well. There is NO excuse for this in America. Sticks for walls, NO shelter from the elements, etc. Good for the authorities!

      • They were living there while building an 800 sq. ft. cabin. Some people live in little tiny trailers on their property while building a big, new home. Leave them alone. Just because it’s not up to your standards, the kids are still happy and healthy, and most importantly LOVED by their parents. You could them in a beautiful home with a foster family who follows all the “rules of society,” and they could be abused. Even if they’re not abused, no kid who is not severely abused would rather be with strangers than with their own parents and siblings. I just don’t understand all of these judgmental people so willing to take parents’ right away. Next time it might be something YOU’RE doing with your kids that your neighbors don’t agree with, and then when CPS comes and takes your kids away, you’ll be singing a different tune!

      • the sticks I saw were a make shift fence for the animals not a wall of the cabin. And if this was about the winter cold, and about freezing to death where was CPS last winter? People are claiming that Cps has been harassing them for a time. So what is the deal Do they care about the kids or did they find some child buyers as allged in the investigation of CPS 5-6 years ago?

    • This is a tyrannical defacto government we are living under. This reminds me of Ruby Ridge. I would hate to think what would have happened had the wife resisted more. The insane cops might have killed her and called in the FBI.

    • You are ok weak. Weak minded. Poor in spirit. Fooled. If you are a parent, focus on creating your own little mindless progeny. Leave those who choose a more vigorous, challenging family building alone.

    • ‘just wow’ clearly hasn’t seen the Nauglers place, there is nothing wrong with it, its a great environment to raise children. And look at them – all happy and healthy. Great children in fact.

      • No, you are wrong! It’s a horrible place and it is getting worse, not better. After 3 years there is still not even a primitive cabin. They bought a shed once but it was taken away. Don’t people build cabins anymore?

    • Rebecca Howell

      Well- the Nauglers suddenly don’t mind living on the grid. With $45000 at their disposal- they are living in a motel. I guess the homestead wasn’t the little slice of heaven they proclaimed it to be. They were poor and didn’t want to be interfered with by the public and government. That’s because they couldn’t provide for their children and were scared that they would be taken away. That why they keep moving every couple of years from state to state and house to house. They are lazy, selfish, crazy people.

    • R you kidding me???? You must be one of satans followers. If you care anything about those children you would see living the way they are living is the GODLY thing to do…Im sure if you have children they are growing up with no morals, Godless attitudes, and being taught that life revolves around them. Ill pray for you!

  2. Let me get this straight, they took the children based solely on an anonymous complaint, without ever having investigated the situation first. Can you say Overreach?

    • The CPS system is very corrupt. You are guilty until proven innocent. This is how Nazi Germany ran things when they were in power. It was probably some fat CPS worker sitting on her butt eating nachos who never leaves her sky-rise apartment and then sees the report and goes oh those children need help. It is complete bull shit that they are allowed this type of power to break up families. Even if there is abuse going on separate the abuser from the abused. AKA remove the offender not split up the family. This is so ridiculous and this type of unconstitutional practice needs to be stopped!

      • Except for the part where no CPS employee makes any money, and will never be able to afford a decent apartment on their wage alone. It’s the system that’s corrupt. These workers have the hardest job in the world. Careful where you put the blame.

    • I agree with Momazilla

    • It was not an anonymous complaint. This story is misleading. The name of the landowner is not being shared with the media–big difference.

  3. Absolutely SICKENING!!! Makes me feel like we live in Nazi Germany… What ever happened to TOLERANCE of other people’s view and values…

    • The irony is a family living off the grid and bettering themselves would have been okay in Nazi Germany…

      • Cruxifer you are a complete dunce to Nazi Germany history if you actually think that.

      • Actually, there are a number of families in Germany who have had their children taken from them, been fined, and jailed all because of the crime of homeschooling. One such family moved to Tennessee and were given asylum only to have the Obama administration try to over turn their asylum. You know, the administration that wants to allow millions of illegal aliens into the country, but not one persecuted, self-supporting Christian homeschooling family. Thank God, after outrage ensued, the gov’t backed off deporting this family.

    • And, it’s only getting worse. USDA officers go onto people’s farms and make them dump out all their raw milk just because someone told them that they were selling it in a state where that’s now been made illegal, because of the fat cat dairy lobbyists fighting to make it illegal. Never mind that people have been drinking raw milk for many, many years with no problems at all. Never mind that there’s never been one reported death due to raw milk. And, now, they want to make vaccinations mandatory. I understand that most people believe it is a public health issue and therefore, support it, but we are walking on a dangerously slippery slope when we give the govt. the right to force medical procedures on us or our children. This is an overall trend. We are losing our liberties every day. Meanwhile, the local police departments are being given military equipment, in case we’re attacked by terrorists. What if they decide YOU are the one who is a threat because you’re not towing the line? I hope people wake up before it’s too late.

  4. I think there is a great deal more to this story than this article reports.

    • There is so much the nauglers are not telling. This isn’t the first time they’ve begged for donations either. They have a long history of cps being called on them. Parental rights being terminated for Joe’s kid in Texas and have a habit of moving to avoid cps complaints. The kids were taken due to unsafe and unsanitary living conditions. This has nothing to do with living off grid or homeschooling. They live I a stick house with tarp roofs even in the winter with an open wall. Its discusting. The kids are denied medical care too. Read up on some comments on facebook.

      • If there is more to the story, the parents should have been arrested for neglect or for something other than resisting arrest. You should not be able to take someone’s children without charging the parents. If there is more to the story, the parents should be put away for it. If there is not enough evidence to put them away, then the kids should stay with them. This should not be that difficult. We have laws for a reason.

      • yet they documented their *entire life* on public social media with beautiful photographs and insightful commentary into what it means to have homesteading skills and create a strong functioning family team. …are you the person who felt slighted after not being “friends”? …are you the (not-so) anonymous source?

        again:

        for apologists of the (force of the) state, “more to the story” is the default catchphrase, their oblation to the altar of normalcy and conformity. It is telling, because it generally betrays a great fear of the force of big G government coming down on them—hence the projection: there’s “more to the story” don’t you see? There must be. It’s where whisper-campaigns begin. It’s a handy catch-all for people who don’t understand or respect the 4th amendment, due process, and the criminal and forensic training of law enforcement that is FOUNDATIONAL to this country, and to ANY country that has even a halfhearted concern for freedom, security, and safety.

        This matter brings into relief the distinctions between CIVIL and CRIMINAL proceedings. Unfortunately, the waters have become murky where “social service” agencies are concerned. Even *IF* that particular alphabet agency has the force sanctioned by law to do some of those procedural actions that are invasive by nature, AND that is up for serious DEBATE by people much more scholarly than you or I, personally I would much rather they use their resources to tackle meth-addled or alcoholic violent or neglectful actions perpetrated upon children by addicted parents with their seizures and raids, wouldn’t you?

        We’ve become an alarmist, coddled, and dopey society. Well, mainstream orthodox suburban America has, anyway.

        It is *not* a judge’s job to exaggerate or stretch the bounds of reason (or allow others to do so) in order to try to claim emergency or urgent circumstances.

        It is *not* a Sheriff’s job to be the handmaiden of a “protective services” agency.

        We entrust our police departments with work that is of a sensitive and serious nature, so as involved citizens, we ought to empower and support them to bring their professional TRAINING to these matters, including forensic interviewing and a whole spectrum of practices that ensure the INTEGRITY of any INVESTIGATION, *especially* in the face of the “more to story” hearsay handwringing machine. If an individual has perpetrated a CRIME of HARM toward another human being as codified in the CRIMINAL statutes of that state (read: not a CIVIL or administrative infraction), then charge him or her with that CRIME, and get on with it! No CRIME, no deprivation. See how beautifully that works?

        But thank you all the same, as these non-arguments have convinced me to donate to the Naugler family’s legal fund in service of expediting the safe return of the children to their family.

      • These people are the worst kind imaginable. Know them well…I just sit and laugh at how they have scammed ALL of you! They are the biggest con-artists out there. They do nothing but prey off of good people, many who have just helped donate to their scam. They are NOT “un-schoolers, home-schooler’s or homesteaders! They actually give home-schooling families and people who live off the grid a horrible name. They’re kids are treated like slaves and it is sick! They claim to be Christian, yet have been kicked out of numerous churches because they break the law, lie, cheat, manipulate, and steal anyway they can. You don’t have to believe me, but it is the truth! They have stolen thousands of dollars from churches in the area. Joe bullies local Bishops, preachers, and any and all clergy-by stating he will use force on them if money isn’t donated to him to pay his bills. He has also threatened good christian people and their children! YES! Their children…This is the kind of sick individual you all are donating money too. He has been arrested numerous times and has been reported to CPS numerous times by hard-working concerned citizens, not a meth using facebook user as they would like you to believe. The children appear brain-washed and abused and have absolutely no social skills what so ever. You can contradict me all you wish, but we have experienced this family first-hand. I also know people who have been in the home and what you would experience upon entering is sickening! It was stated that there was human feces everywhere! The children looked as if they hadn’t been bathed in months with feces all over them. No water or beds for them to sleep in. She will post a picture on fb of a bed and spin it a thousand different ways to make you think the children have beds. She grooms dogs because he will not work! When you have ten kids…you work to support your family! I don’t care what or where you live…a condo or in the wilderness! They manipulate social media to their advantage and I listened to that audio and that Sheriff was doing his JOB!!! She resisted arrest and put on a big show for everyone! THEY DO IT ALL THE TIME. They go into a grocery store and steal and pretend to fall, just so they can get money from the owners. They are hypocrites who judge everyone else in society who doesn’t live the way they do. They also posted something once that all the men and women who fight for this country, deserve to die…these are two sick and twisted individuals. This time they went too far. The best thing that could ever happen is their children are taken away. It is my sincere hope they are not returned. I pray for that Sheriffs Dept, that they will be able to prosecute them to the fullest extent of the law. This is the truth and I could care less who replies and donates to them. They will squander all your money away and be back in the very same position months from now.

        • We know them also and you are 100% right! They are the biggest con artists ever and you all have been scammed and their children will pay in the end.

        • …and yet I can’t find any court records on her, and only one in his name for the hearing Monday about the children. Are you following them in stores? Don’t tell me, you’re that anonymous person? ;)

          • Also, the father was never arrested, so if he really did threaten anyone wouldn’t he have been arrested, or be facing charges right now? Hm?

        • Funny, because I know them personally and I would say you are 100% wrong! And you should have paid attention to the talks more during General Conference… In the words of Deiter F. Uchtdorf “Just stop it!”

          They have done nothing to deserve having their children taken away from them!

          • Please go save children who are being sexually abused…beaten, and starved purposefully.

            FACT: CHILDREN ARE 6 TIMES MORE LIKELY TO BE KILLED IN FOSTER CARE THEN IF THEY WERE LEFT WITH THEIR SO CALLED ABUSIVE OR NEGLECTFUL PARENTS.

            THIS WHY I STOPPED BEING A FOSTER PARENT.. 90% OF MY FOSTER CHILDREN WERE TAKEN BECAUSE MOM SMOKED A JOINT, WAS POOR OR WOULDNT MEDICATE THEIR ADHD KID.
            ONLY 2 KIDS IN 6 YEARS DID I HAVE FOR REAL ABUSE.
            ONE CHILD WAS TAKEN CUZ MOM HAD A 400$ ELECTRIC BILL ,,,SHE WORKED 9 HRS 5 DAYS A WEEK… PAID ALL THE LIGHT BILL BUT 120$ OF IT..IT WAS SHUT OFF…EX HUSBAND CALLED CPS ,SHERRIFF AND CPS REMOVED THE LITTLE GIRL. BUT TJE SORRY FATHER DIDNT WANT HIS CHILD…
            SO CPS PAID ME 424$ MONTHLY TO CARE FOR HER INSTEAD OF HELPING PAY THE HARDWORKING MOMS ELECTRIC BILL.
            AND THE MOM HAD NEVER HAD ANY PREVIOUS PROBLEMS WITH CPS
            SHE SIMPLY LOST WORK TIME DUE TO HER CAR PROBLEMS…
            TOOK CPS 7 MONTHS TO GIVE HER BACK

            SOMETHING OS WRONG

        • I think that you are the woman who made the complaint to the police…

        • You don't know me...

          I know them VERY WELL , too and yes, they are mooches, leaches, you name it. He recently went to jail because he is so far behind in child support from his first relationships. That’s why he can’t go to government for help, because they will throw him in jail…so the kids suffer. They are lazy, selfish people. They have been given vehicles many times, food provided by churches , bills paid for, but they are not productive people so they wear their welcome out very quickly wherever they go. That’s why they have no where to turn, except to make up crap and scam everyone with a conscience.

        • Looks to me, like CPS now has a propaganda department advancing their doctrines on social media. Hitler would be envious.

      • First of all CPS visited the house today and it passed inspection, # 2 how do you know every little detail about this family? #3 Who put you in charge of investigating and judging them? and # 4 the news station says CPS has never been to the home before. So where is your proof that CPS has been to their home before?

        • First off…the nauglers said cps cleared their home. CPS hasn’t commented. Everything you hear is from the nauglers. Look up the news media videos. They are living under tarps. I don’t see them getting their kids back anytime soon. And second they are asking for money so it’s our right to nose in and try to find out every side of the story. Check out her facebook page. The house and property are not fit for kids to live.

        • That is not a “house ” Sticks for walls. No heat. No water. Can you even imagine how cold those kids are in the winter. LOOK AT THE PICTURES. This in not a home schooling case. They are diverting your attention away from the main problem. How can anyone approve this “house’ for children to live in. Whomever did should not be allowed to work with children. Read the comments of people who say they know them. If what they say is true the children should be removed.

  5. here we go again—

    for apologists of the (force of the) state, “more to the story” is the default catchphrase, their oblation to the altar of normalcy and conformity. It is telling, because it generally betrays a great fear of the force of big G government coming down on them—hence the projection: there’s “more to the story” don’t you see? There must be. It’s where whisper-campaigns begin. It’s a handy catch-all for people who don’t understand or respect the 4th amendment, due process, and the criminal and forensic training of law enforcement that is FOUNDATIONAL to this country, and to ANY country that has even a halfhearted concern for freedom, security, and safety.

    This matter brings into relief the distinctions between CIVIL and CRIMINAL proceedings. Unfortunately, the waters have become murky where “social service” agencies are concerned. Even *IF* that particular alphabet agency has the force sanctioned by law to do some of those procedural actions that are invasive by nature, AND that is up for serious DEBATE by people much more scholarly than you or I, personally I would much rather they use their resources to tackle meth-addled or alcoholic violent or neglectful actions perpetrated upon children by addicted parents with their seizures and raids, wouldn’t you?

    We’ve become an alarmist, coddled, and dopey society. Well, mainstream orthodox suburban America has, anyway.

    It is *not* a judge’s job to exaggerate or stretch the bounds of reason (or allow others to do so) in order to try to claim emergency or urgent circumstances.

    It is *not* a Sheriff’s job to be the handmaiden of a “protective services” agency.

    We entrust our police departments with work that is of a sensitive and serious nature, so as involved citizens, we ought to empower and support them to bring their professional TRAINING to these matters, including forensic interviewing and a whole spectrum of practices that ensure the INTEGRITY of any INVESTIGATION, *especially* in the face of the “more to story” hearsay handwringing machine. If an individual has perpetrated a CRIME of HARM toward another human being as codified in the CRIMINAL statutes of that state (read: not a CIVIL or administrative infraction), then charge him or her with that CRIME, and get on with it! No CRIME, no deprivation. See how beautifully that works?

    But thank you all the same, as these hysterias and non-arguments have convinced me to donate to the Naugler family’s legal fund in service of expediting the safe return of the children to their family.

  6. Whoever personally knows this family please advise them of this link for help.
    http://www.hslda.org/hs/state/KY/default.asp
    Home School Legal Defense Association
    Ph. 540-338-5600

  7. Whatever happened to this being a free country??? To many people hava their damn noses in other peoples business, its bad enough the government dictates to us!! If everyone kept their noses in their own backyards , their would be a lot more peace in the world!! These kids are happy, clean, and well taken care of!! So give them back to their parents and mind your own damn business!!!

  8. You know what I hate..people who post nasty messages. Anonymous yah you

  9. I support the Nauglers raising their family, homesteading and teaching their children with the unschooling philosophy. They are the next generation of leaders who will be clear thinking and have a real connection with the Earth, the matrix. It is an outrage that their family unit has been interrupted as it has. The family is the basic unit of society, and as far as I can see, they are a healthy building block of their local community I am one of 12 myself, and unschooled my children as well. They are all contributing to their communities with intelligence and heart. Hang in there, all of you. You have my respect and support for your own sovereignty.

  10. I don’t know who to believe. Is OFF THE GRID NEWS going to reply or give us anymore information to go off of? I see that the story sites its content, but has it been vetted?
    I’d like to know/learn more. I think there is an inherent responsibility to us that follow OFF THE GRID NEWS, that a sincere, objective fact finding mission be had.
    We have someone saying the father has been arrested many times and another saying no prior record. We need the facts… Best regards to everyone involved, I hope that the truth is found and the best decisions made -by cool heads…

  11. They where not home schooled. They where not educated. that family should be ashamed to harm their children during the years they learn the most. These kids will not be able to survive after the parents are gone.

  12. I feel for the kids and their parents. It is cruel to separate the kids like that in 4 different locates. THink of the drama on the kids. They are trying to survive as best they can. There way of life may not be like others but in this world you have to find what works best with what you can afford. If there is concern for the kids no one would separate them. Officals really don’t care because they would have never separated the kids. There should have been a better way to handle the situation. Coming in on their lives like this has to be terrible. I get so sick of government agencies come in and tear family’s apart. Taking control of a weak condition. Ya just push them around and tell them where to go without any concerns of all persons involed. I hope and pray the famiy can be family together.

    • There is a limit on the number of children that can be living in a foster home. Based on the fact that this case involves 10 children, it was practically impossible to keep them together once taken from their parents.

  13. Well, you can believe me or no, my story is different. i gave birth to twins and while inside one twin kicked the other twin in his head when they were on an ultra sound i had prof of this (not excepted by cps) unclear who was who with out expert. and my ex husband fell with the one who had been kicked for 3 months and c scan told that it was previous injury before birth but they took my infant babys from me for 1 yr . cost 90,000 to fight in court . and not racist but they are little white baby boys , and CPS told me over and over ( sign this or they will be free to adopt out) do this or we could lose them and you won’t see them for yrs, i cried every day for that yr. , I hadn’t dropped or ever abused my 2 month old sons . but they were taken for a yr. and SOVMOMMA your RIGHT! they take kids and ask questions later and they hear what they want, if those kids are adoptable with no health or mental problems they will be harder to get back as CPS make their money off adoptions and court costs ….. My twins are 21 yrs old and i never had another run in with them but if you asked them if they were ever abused or mistreated or even lacked for anything they would tell you NEVER! I had 2 more children after and never a problem but once when the daycare had an out break of pnemonia but individual families were detained and homes were checked and when it was discovered it was the daycare all intrusion stopped. It is a problem in our country . that they don’t need evidence to take your kids and can put a family thur so much pain on the whim of an on looker who thinks a certain way or jumps to a conclusion, and the cost is extreme but emotionaly and finacialy on any family . i don’t know this Family but I can feel their pain. and see that maybe if enough ppl see this nazi CPS for what it is a scam disgised as helping children , but so many drug addicted and sexually abused kids get overlooked and never taken bc their not as adoptable as others are maybe you would wake up and see it as a money making scam and an invasion of our rights of due process and so many others. i was black mailed with my children welfare for a yr and i will never forget it. or forgive it. i have no kids now under 18 so they can be damned . but one thing i was told if i make to many waves they could always come back and take them so easily again so yeah i kept my mouth closed TILL NOW. and believe me or not , i have no reason to lie. i have been redeemed by raising my kids ,watching them grow and knowing they know i was and am a good mother

  14. That is not a “house ” Sticks for walls. No heat. No water. Can you even imagine how cold those kids are in the winter. LOOK AT THE PICTURES. This in not a home schooling case. They are diverting your attention away from the main problem. How can anyone approve this “house’ for children to live in. Whomever did should not be allowed to work with children. Read the comments of people who say they know them. If what they say is true the children should be removed.

  15. I am angry at the behavior of the government officials. They should be reprimanded and lose their jobs. The family should be left to raise their children and to homeschool.

  16. This is absolute bollocks. The single worst thing about the U.S.
    Ask the kids. Let the kids decide. Are they really unhappy with how they’re living? If they say they want to leave, only then would I be willing to listen to any argument for taking them away. If they don’t then the CPS should have no say whatsoever in what’s going on, no matter how much someone else doesn’t like it.

    Who cares if they live under a tarp. That’s the business of the family and no one else. Millions of children in Mongolia and Tibet and Siberia live in felt tents, and it’s an awful lot colder there and they don’t even have ready access to firewood in many places, and they do perfectly fine. People have been living that way for literally millions of years, and yet every one of your ancestors managed to do it successfully or else you wouldn’t be around to argue against it.

    This is the only reason I don’t outright just go live as a hunter-gatherer. Not that I don’t have the skills to do it (I’ve spent years that way professionally, I know what I’m doing and feel more comfortable when I’m out there than ever in a town.), but because I just know some nut would say raising children that way is a travesty cause they don’t have an Xbox and make someone come take them away. They probably think shooting archery and eating trout and porcupine is less healthy than sitting infront of a TV all day eating McDonalds.

  17. A shack to some is a castle to others. Children thrive on love not things. This family was living their lives in a beautiful setting, in a free country. Those of you who are so outraged may want to go out and do something to help or feed the homeless rather than sit in judgement against this family.

    Truly I believe the stronger the objections and negative comments about their lifestyle, the less the person is doing, if anything, to go out in the world to do something to help others.

  18. From the pictures the family looks to be well fed and happy. As the story gives no real details other than they are living about like most Americans lived less than a hundred years ago. I see nothing wrong with that. I was raised under similar conditions. No electricity, no indoor plumbing, No running water and burned wood for heat and for sure no air conditioning. I have not suffered because of my upbringing.
    In fact I think a lot of my successes in life are due to it.
    If I were guessing I would say the kids were taken because they were being home schooled. I know well to do folks that send their kids to private schools and some home school. There is a very good reason for this. They want their children educated not indoctrinated. Some of the public schools are moral cesspools that no kid should be forced to attend.

  19. I see nothing wrong with homeschooling or living off the grid and this family appears to be horribly mistreated. Still, all the media coverage is coning from the family itself or websites with a clear bias in favor of this lifestyle.

    I would be curious to know what the other side of the story is…and there is always another side. CPS has plenty of kids with legitimate problems to deal with. They don’t need to make stuff up. I want to give this family the benefit of a doubt but I get the feeling we’re not being told all the facts here.

  20. I’ve read the comments, looked at their Facebook page, seen the pics, and bottom line, while their lifestyle is not the one many would chose, what they provide for their kids is well within what it’s necessary to provide. People have every right to chose their lifestyle and no one should be intruding unless it’s REAL neglect. Not just a different lifestyle.

    • They don’t provide ANYTHING for their kids!! I know the Naugler’s very well. I have known them for over 5 years. Anyone can make themselves look anyway they dream to …in pictures…but people who really know them all know how disappointing it is to try to help them make a better life for themselves: giving them a suburban and when it broke down due to a lack of maintenance, Jo Naugler expecting the person who gave him the vehicle to fix it for him! They have had their bills paid for and food provided to them by our church and by whatever charity they could mooch off of, had help cleaning their house, right here in town by the way! They do not live off her grid. They live where they can squat for free. They are NOT self- sufficient people. That property they are on in NoT theirs. This all started because Jo threatened the land owner with a gun because he would not allow Jo access to his water. Then the land owner called the police! Those children, you will see, are neglected!! They are not homeschooled. Jo is just a fast talker, and manipulater. Even manipulating CPS in past.

      • I was thinking the same thing I know theres more to the story…Please tell more EJ

      • I’ve noticed that often good “Christain” people, or others who want to help those they deem less fortunate than themselves, like to give. It makes them feel good. But, there’s often an unspoken price attached to that gift. It might be that they expect the family to “raise their level of living,” in whatever way the giver thinks is best. That they start to “look like” what society thinks they should look like. This is not selfless giving. It is an attempt to force people to live the way you think they should, and making yourself feel “noble” in the process. It sounds like some of the people who know this family have an axe to grind with them. If they are manipulative beggars, as you make them out to be, that is also their choice. The consequence will eventually be that people won’t want to help them any more. But, sometimes, depending on your circumstance, and if you feel powerless to change things in any other way, and you don’t feel confident that the world will provide what you need, you may resort to manipulation as a way to survive. Lots of people manipulate for lots of different reasons. But, that still doesn’t give the govt. the right to take their children away.

        And, it’s always easy to say “well, there must be more to the story.” I understand why people think that way..it’s easier than to believe that we live in a country that is no longer free, where the govt. feels justified in taking your most precious thing away, your kids, just because you don’t do what they think you should. It’s hard to believe, so people say “there must be more to the story.” When it happens to you, or someone close to you, you’ll see that that IS the story.

    • They do not have potable water.

  21. More power to these people. They should be allowed / scratch that / they have the rite to live and raise their children any way they want without the :powers that be: interfering with what they do. As long as their kids are provided for , there should be nothing said. As for the anonymous big mouth , I guess that person never learned that nobody likes a tatteltale . What ever happened to being able to face your accusers ? Now a days anybody can accuse and not face up to the person or persons they accuse .

  22. Either these people are lying to us about where they live or this story or the report from the family is lie. There is no way CPS would those children go back to that make shift shack. I do some of their photos show some kind ranch style home.The only people saying CPS has no problem with this is the Nauglers, compulsive liars from what the local community says about them. One woman who knows them begs people not to give them money saying that they have been trouble to the community for years. First off, CPS has not even had the chance to deal with this as it won’t go to court until next week. Do not believe what these two say. Wait for the government report.

  23. I almost forgot, Ellsworth is not an uninterested party, he is a representative of the HLDS which is homeschooling advocacy group. So do not believe anything that he says either.

  24. This is ridiculous. Can you imagine the stress that parents and the kids undergo right now? It’s thousands times worse than what the authorities trying to attempt to fix here. And what if the kids will have to stay in foster care for a long time and be separated? What good does it do? Poor family ! !! This system is messed up . So sad

  25. C.S. Lewis quote:

    “Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will, torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.”

  26. I can’t believe this! PPeople think that homeschooling and not computer homeschooling is wrong. But if they are going to try to stop it they are going to have to go through all of the parents homeschooling and the people who stick up for them!

  27. Bonus points for using my favorite author to make a point!

  28. As long as fathers put up with these attacks by the Child Kidnapping Services (“guilty until proven innocent”), kids will continue to be kidnapped. They even have a financial incentive to do so – a Reagan-era program to reimburse the agencies with federal money for each kid adopted out. More kids kidnapped equals more money for the agencies. Is that sick? This is one of those lines in the sand, folks. The ultimate tyranny is destruction of the family. If we allow this, we are slaves, and deserve what we get – even if our kids don’t.

  29. War is coming. The Soviet Socialists you see here posting are Guber-mint shills for the regime. The children will be doped up, raped by the politically correct Queer nation that runs Child Perverted Services and their “buds” and now that the system smells money they will do all that they can to milk every penny from the family while pedophiles in Guber-mint have their way with the children. Strong Americans came from our rural nation, Common Whore (core) fools are what is being produced in the Public Fool system now. The latest part of the scam is that the children don’t have national ID cards, you know, social security numbers. Nor do they birth certs for the guber-mint bonds they demand.

  30. I have seen personally how CPS works in Breck county KY. They are a bunch of lowlife nut cases who take children from good families. Many times they have made up information. Its all about money here not the children. Some of the people who work for CPS here do not even have 4 year degrees yet they are the experts. CPS are the ones who should be arrested!

  31. This is ridiculous! I have a relative that was doing every drug known to man while she was pregnant and they still didn’t arrest her and/or take her baby away! They offered her 6-12 months of in-house reahb for her and the baby! This is an outrage! We are NOT free.

  32. These people are criminals and there is still no house/cabin/shed on their property. Don’t buy this idea that these are good people being persecuted by the big bad government. This is Kentucky and we tolerate primitive lifestyles. That is not what this story is about!

  33. Do not judge lest ye be judged!!!!!!Who am I to think I know best. I’m 88 yrs old, learn something new everyday so how could I weigh-in on a bunch of other peoples opinions?

  34. I have family who live off the grid and home school their kids and their oldest 2 were working and had enough saved up to buy property and vehicles all on their own before they even moved out they both are doing great and are all very smart kids so yes I think that they need to go back to their parents and I think that you naysayers need to but out of other people’s business they aren’t abusing the kids and they aren’t neglecting them so but out and leave them be

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