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Is ObamaCare A Blessing In Disguise? with Dr. Richard Olree – Episode 108

Today’s ruling by the Supreme Court, holding up the individual mandate in ObamaCare, is the death knell for the American health care system as we know it. In a way however, it might be a mixed blessing. First, it’s uniting us as we haven’t been in a very long time. And second?

It might just force us to really pay attention to our health, to treat our bodies with the respect these bodies deserve, and to do those things that will keep our bodies functioning properly.

Off The Grid Radio
Ep 108
Released: June 29, 2012

Bill:      Here is the show. Welcome everybody. It’s Bill Heid today with our special guest. I’m very happy to have Dr. Richard Olree on. Dr. Olree has connected some dots and I’m always interested in connecting dots. I would call him a theoretical geneticist. He’s a chiropractor. He probably pays the bills. Rich, you pay the bills with chiropractic probably, right?

Rich:    Well, good morning. Yes, that’s how I make my mortgage payments is hitting the office up six days a week. I kind of run an acute care clinic and a long-term clinic.

Bill:      Up there in Michigan?

Rich:    In northern Michigan where it was actually 94 so we got our first dose of heat this year.

Bill:      Well something I didn’t tell you before, when we first called, that my connection with you is an interesting one—one that you know nothing about. Years ago I read a book—and it’s probably a book that you have read—and it was Fertility From the Ocean Deep by a mutual friend of ours, Charles Walters. I didn’t know at the time—I was young and foolish—and I didn’t know that you couldn’t just call people up and start talking to them so I called Chuck up in Kansas City and started talking to him about creating products—sort of more agricultural products and gardening products—because I was so fascinated by his work. But he told me about you and at the time he was fascinated with when he ran into you and that was his hope of his was that this word could be disseminated.

I know that you’ve sold some of the books, Minerals for the Genetic Code, and I think it’s an amazing book that you and Chuck did. But it still does not have the broad reading that it needs to have. I was telling Jeremy here—our producer—“The problem with Rich is going to be how do I kind of…? He could talk about so many things and in so much depth. How do I kind of narrow this down for people to listen to and to take on?” But I think, Dr. Olree, what we’ve got to do is give people a little bit… How did you get interested in this whole thing to begin with? I think your story is part of the process we have to take people down.

Rich:    Well that was an interesting story. I had been studying the relationship of minerals since 1981. I actually started setting bones when I was 14 and didn’t even know what a chiropractor was and the next thing I know I get a treatment and I tell the guy, I said, “I could do that” and he says, “Well, they’re starting a new school in Spartanburg South Carolina” and I went and met all the legends that have passed on now. That just evolved into becoming a chiropractor. Well, when I went to chiropractic school I thought I was going to learn all kinds of stuff. Well the school taught basic stuff and I was in the environment to learn about hand reflexology and iridology and all the different ways of looking at the human body in terms of weak magnetic energy. Well that drifted into understanding how minerals superimposed their laws of physics into the genetic code.

When I came across a book from Walter and Lao Russell called Atomic Suicide and this book laid out the principles of subatomic particles 20 years before they even came up with the name of the first subatomic particle. And I was listening to then President Bill Clinton when he combined the two genomic groups saying, “We need to know this and the future is understanding genetics.” I took a look at that and I just studied and studied and studied and I found a way that we could look at minerals, subatomic particles and the standard genetic chart and combine them. Well, I had no idea where this was taking me and I had prayed for a couple years that I would end up having some guidance. Well that’s the story of me having everything go wrong in one day to be picked up while I was hitchhiking home from a broken truck.

Within 24 hours of that ride I ended up meeting Chuck Walters. About that time Chuck Walters—he was on his sixth year of kidney dialysis. The average dialysis patient only lives three years and it’s because of his holistic connections and everybody tried to help him and he tried this and he tried that. I came along with this new understanding of minerals in genetics and we used words like lanthanum and thulium to control potassium and phosphorous and we got his body healthy enough, at the age 76, he became the second oldest kidney transplant recipient. So from there, that was just the springboard. Next thing I know I’m dressed up in a three-piece suit going to Acres Conventions. Chuck was nearly blind at that time. I was like a bridesmaid walking down the aisle with him and introduced him to everybody in the organic industry and I went from not knowing anything about this to suddenly lecturing and I’ve done so for the past seven years.

Bill:      And the type of lectures, I think what you’ve done and what Chuck liked is that you were able to connect so many dots, even from vertebrae minerals, acupressure points. How did that whole thing come about where you were able to make connections there?

Rich:    Well, once I… Going way back into 1981, I more or less had a download. Some people call them lucid dreams. I became aware of what I believed was to be the coast of Aruba and there is a series of lochs that almost look like the top of a casket except much bigger and in my dream state I was told I was going into a vault of magnetic knowledge and I came out of that and I said, “That’s going to take me 30 years to write that stuff down.” And I’d been writing for 30 years. And out of that particular dream I came up with the association of the human spine, minerals, subatomic particles, the electron valence of all the minerals, what minerals have multiple electron valences, how to look at it to know which valence is the right valence.

And with that I superimposed these thoughts over the theories and the laws of acupuncture and I was able to take the 24 hour clock and apply it to this chart and I broke it down from a two hour, traditional viewpoint to a single hour and attach it to a given mineral. So not only would you say that we know that a particular energy field—a magnetic energy field—regenerates at 3:00 in the morning, we could also then come back and say, “That happens to be calcium.” So if people constantly wake up at 3:00 in the morning the reference book has been written to find out exactly what hour of the day, what mineral could be out of balance in the evolution of your human DNA as well as all other DNA life forms.

Bill:      So we’re talking about DNA. As long as we’re talking about DNA, could you explain to the listener most of our life and how we age is a function of our building proteins and DNA, either coming to fruition, completing itself or not completing itself and just those sequences are pretty important. They’re not talked about a lot but would you explain a little bit about that whole protein and the coating involved in protein?

Rich:    Well the central dogma of biology is for the DNA to direct the cell to make a protein and through that it goes from DNA to something called messenger RNA or ribonucleic acid and DNA stands for deoxyribonucleic acid. And then there is a little attachment in the cell called the ribosome and the ribosome puts all the amino acids and hooks them together in the sequence that DNA told it to do. And then, just like a sentence gets a period, when the ending point of that protein is made—three picoseconds—that protein has a three dimensional structure.

And if the body doesn’t make that three-dimensional structure the cell recognizes it and says, “Make it again” and “Make it again” until it finally makes it right. That three dimensional structure is where I believe that we have to have the right amount of minerals, the right kind of minerals present to exert a weak magnetic effect to the three dimensional structure of that protein. And if you are lacking minerals and you cannot make these proteins the right way the first time around then essentially, you’re using your DNA code at an accelerated rate and we can burn our codes out much earlier in life because we do not have the right minerals, the right trace minerals to give DNA’s expression the first time a protein is made.

Bill:      So that’s pretty important stuff and as it turns out, when it doesn’t shut down or when it doesn’t operate properly—the sequencing—that start/stop button just keeps getting pressed over and over and over and you’re talking about that’s the difference in aging. Am I correct? Is what you just said?

Rich:    Well, yeah. There is one disease came to light in my research and it’s called Lou Gehrig’s Disease, also known as amyotrophic lateral sclerosis. And the current thinking in that right now is possibly a heavy metal like cadmium is not being detoxified from the brain and one of the cadmium detoxification genes—and there is only a small handful of them—could be asleep at the switch and the weak magnetic interference that cadmium places on the gene called SOD1—superoxide dismutase 1—which basically combines zinc and copper together. Well, it changes the three dimensional confirmation of that protein and the cell looks at that and it goes, “Wait. We didn’t make the right thing. Make it again.”

Well, every cell kind of has a toilet, just like we do, and the body makes this protein so much that the toilet gets so full it backs up and ruptures—killing the brain cell. Right now they’re trying to figure out—and this has been a very bad mystery every since Lou Gehrig put the name on this—is why do certain cells just prematurely die? Well the body—and they’ve measured this—they say, “Well, this thing is supposed to have this three dimensional confirmation and it’s not making it” so the body says, “I don’t know what we made. Put that one into the toilet and make another one.” And this is true for almost every protein that we have. It has to have the right three-dimensional structure to it.

Bill:      So typically… Let’s change the camera angle a little bit and let’s pull the camera back out because I have this theory and it’s been promulgated by theological study and as we look at the Sabbath, Rich, you look at resting the soil every seven years and I had talked to Chuck about that and then also was it William Albrecht’s Soil Fertility and Animal Health and then another book by Joseph Cocannouer, Weeds: Guardians of the Soil. So I’m thinking every Sabbath year—so one year in seven people typically rest it—and here are some directions from the Creator of the universe just saying, “Okay, go ahead and I’ve got this plan for what I want to do during this rest year.” What happens is weeds send their roots down. They pull minerals back up—at least this is what Cocannouer and other have said—they pull minerals back up to the soil, back up closer to the surface of the soil– these broad spectrum minerals—and provide some of the minerals that people need for these protein sequences.

And what we’ve done… So what I want I want to do is kind of get your comment on this broad perspective. What we’ve done, as we’ve sort of outsourced all of these other areas and we farm differently and we’ve done things differently is we’ve sort of short-cutted some mechanisms. We said, “God, I don’t like the way you do things. I’d rather work seven years. I want that field to be producing constantly.” So we’ve stripped the soil and would you say that…? Is it too much to say that—and I know certainly Chuck believed this—but in your mind, after the research that just not having those minerals available to us through plant based foods kind of creates these problems—whether it’s Lou Gehrig’s Disease or some of the other diseases mentioned in the book. Am I too crazy stepping out like that?

Rich:    Well, no. Take a look at… In 1996 something called Celiac Sprue, which is a disorder of the bacteria in the way you absorb food in the small intestine. It is statistically 1 in 10,000 people and you could simply get a blood test and say, “Yep, you’ve got this genetic defect. You’ll never eat wheat again in your life or you’re going to have everything in your gut get into your blood and you’ll always be a mess.” Since 1996 we have dropped those statistics down to 1 in 135. But what’s interesting is people that are now diagnosed with Celiac, only 30 out of 100 or 30% actually have the genetic defect. Now that’s 70% of people that have got this Celiac Sprue.

Now you talk about messing things up and not letting anything have a rest and trying to create life on a demineralized soil, well that’s when they introduce genetically modified foods was 1996 and we have unleashed a series of problems related to having an empty harvest where it looks like a piece of corn and smells like a piece of corn and tastes like a piece of corn but actuality it is lacking manganese and boron and its calcium-magnesium ratios aren’t too good and it’s affecting zinc and copper and boron because we have taken the Creator’s blueprint and thought that man should inject his thoughts into this and change the coding. I look at the Celiac Sprue as nothing more than an experiment since 1996 and this happens to be a disease that went from 1 in 10,000 to 1 in 135. But we could take a look at a lot of diseases and make implications that we basically have run the minerals out of our food chain.

Bill:      And then not only that, Rich—do you want to talk about a couple of them that are the most…? We’ve done a couple things. We’ve done what you’ve just said and then we’ve also added some pretty heavy chemicals into the mix that will force out some of the ones if we do get a little of something in. There are other things that we can do, for example—drinking pop—that create shortages of other minerals. Even the shortages that we do get, it creates even more shortages. So let’s talk first about…

Rich:    Well, just go right to the word “pop.” What does pop have in it? It has high fructose corn syrup. Now when you find the mineral boron in nature it’s always attached to fructose. And if you strip the fructose away from the minerals, if you start consuming lots of fructose, its natural mineral counterpart is boron. And as little as we know about the human body and boron—and it’s really researched in plant as a must—what happens when you put concentrations of things that have natural affinities for minerals and you pull it out? Well let’s just say that we have polluted drinking water and now we’re going to start drinking bottled water. Well, I do something in this clinic called “tissue mineral analysis.”

In other words, we take a clipping of hair and we’ll ship it out and find out what the mineral content is like. The people that are drinking all this bottled water—they all have one thing in common. Arsenic’s big brother called “antimony” shows up in the hair in high quantities. So we’re not only taking the water supply and making it uninhabitable, when we think that we’ve got it licked by putting it in plastic we end up with a whole other problem. There are hormone disrupters in the plastic that are given off but I always look at the minerals and the minerals… We’ve got minerals that actually are dedicated to run the genetic code and to keep your genes working to the laws of physics we have to take the physics from the minerals and start applying it to the gene code. Now you start taking multiple deficiencies.

I live in a county called Montmorency County in northern Michigan and we have the highest cancer rates per capita than the entire state of Michigan. What does our soil lack? Iodine, selenium, magnesium, boron—and we live in an absolutely vitamin D deficient area. We might only make it 60 days out of the year so what is the result of the misfolding of our genetic code? The inability to get tumor suppressing genes to work, the inability to get damaged DNA, single or double bridged, to repair. It’s the lack of available minerals to create the proteins necessary for our body repair.

Bill:      So go back to iodine. Let’s talk about iodine. Much of your research is involved in iodine. What happens when children don’t have enough iodine?

Rich:    Oh, that’s called cretinism. If a woman conceives and her body is low in iodine and that child is not given iodine, what do we have going on? We have a brain that never develops and never will. If you’re folic acid deficient at a certain point early on you’ll get something called spina bifida. If you are iodine deficient at a certain point of brain development the body just doesn’t make the brain right and no matter how much iodine you give them later on you cannot get these cells to revert back to what they’re supposed to because they weren’t made right in the first period of time. Now it’s estimated that 80% of the United States population is indeed iodine deficient. Well, we have a lot of people that are out there sick. You could draw a line down the center of the country and you could say everything east of the Mississippi is selenium deficient and everything west of the Mississippi is using the wrong kind of selenium.

What I mean by the wrong kind is the good Lord put selenium on earth in three different—what’s called an oxidative state or electrical charges—and the human body and living components of life that we know of needs what’s called a -2 oxidation state and it should be hooked onto an amino acid called methionine and when you combine the two you get something called selenomethionine. But most of the selenium that’s given to farm animals and that we ultimately consume is something called sodium selenate. Well the research on sodium selenate is a little bit will go a long way—too much gives you diabetes and there are problems with overdosing because the body can’t use that.

That’s the one-two punch. Iodine goes to the thyroid. It goes to the breast tissue. It goes to the ovarian tissue. And it allows for the conversion of our T3 to T4 molecule but the thyroid-stimulating hormone is now selenium dependent. So if you don’t have iodine or you don’t have selenium you then have a real problem making the most basic, most abundant hormone in the human body—that being thyroxine. So this is a one-two punch. Iodine is number one and selenium is number two but if you take a look at the chemistry iodine does not even work without the presence of selenium. It is so important that selenium be present because the good Lord put selenium on the tail and the head of every male reproductive cell and then that egg knows which one has the most selenium because it’s going to be the most likelihood that if it’s germinated you’ll get a viable reproductive process to continue.

Bill:      Wow, that’s fascinating. You had mentioned… Something came to mind with iodine when you were talking about… I was thinking about breast and ovarian cancer. Aren’t those two of probably the more prevalent breast cancers?

Rich:    Well let’s talk about ovarian cancer. That’s a hard one to pick up on because by the time a woman becomes symptomatic they are so far down the road that a lot of times it’s too late or they have radical operations to stay alive. I recently had the opportunity to meet a dentist—a Dr. Hal Huggins—who has been around the block a long time and his book has put him on the map. It’s called It’s All in Your Head. His whole book was about mercury poisoning coming from amalgam fillings. And I already know that the average dentist has a life expectancy—if it’s an amalgam driven practice—of 49 years old and I remember my first dentist died at 48 of a heart attack. So that was very dear to my heart. But in his book he says, “Mercury is actually found in semen.”

And I got a chance to meet him about six weeks ago and we talked for quite a while. I said, “Hal, why is that mercury in the semen?” He goes, “I don’t know” and I said, “That’s how the body is getting rid of it” and he says, “Why is that?” I said, “Well, the tail and the head of every sperm cell have got selenium and selenium is the natural magnet to pull mercury out of the body” and he thought that was fascinating. But what I had said started to make me think. What if the male species is giving all their mercury amalgams to the opposite sex and the opposite sex is taking what selenium they have in their system to detoxify the mercury.

And that leaves the reproductive organs really low on selenium. This invites in viruses, particularly the human papillary virus—also known as HPV. When you get into selenium deficient tissue viruses go amok. And I’m going, “You know, if the most deadly form of cancer in the female is ovarian cancer, could it be brought on because the male is detoxifying his mercury through the semen, giving it to the partner, running all the selenium out of his partner?” I go, “What a terrible thought that is.” So I started doing some research on it and couldn’t find anything.

Bill:      Yeah, I was going to say, I mentioned there is not too many published papers—even in Pub Med—about that, huh?

Rich:    Nope. That’s right where I went was Pub Med. I typed in “mercury and HPV” and nothing came up. Every day of my life I try to have an original thought and that is not an implausible thought. As a matter of fact I wouldn’t be surprised if this type of chain of events won’t be researched in the future as amalgam fillings get phased out, when the older dentists that use them die off.

Bill:      Yeah, there is a complexity in the universe that I think… And a lot of folks maybe are of the opinion, “We’re from Missouri. You’ve got to show us something” and there are a lot of things going on in the universe—electron valences, for example—just to mention one that you’d mentioned, that aren’t readily available to the eye. And so I think it’s important people understand what’s going on. I know you had talked at Acres one time about what happens when you smoke a cigarette. What’s released… It’s not the smoking of the cigarette that gives you cancer. What happens?

Rich:    Well, whenever you burn carbon and the energy is released extremely fast, there are trace amounts of a radioactive mineral called polonium and it’s got a designation of polonium 210, meaning it has 210 electrons and that’s a very heavy metal. And it sits and gives off alpha radiation and the alpha radiation lodges into what’s called bifurcations. In other words, when one tube in your body becomes two tubes there is a point of impact that the radiation gets impregnated into the tissue and then the alpha radiation from PO210 causes single and double stranded breaks. Well, the body, in an effort to remove all of the polonium 210, gobbles up all the selenium to remove this, leaving the body without the ability to control oxidation-reduction reactions in the body. And the single most important DNA sequence is called P53, also known as the guardian of the genetic genome.

When P53 gets falling asleep because the body doesn’t have enough selenium to activate it then cells that have gone amok, that are becoming precancerous or into cancer, the normal mechanism of getting a cell to go to its grave, which is called apoptosis—it fails to do it. And again, when the body is low on selenium what comes alive? Viruses. And the cytomegalovirus and the Epstein Barr virus are the two viruses that come to mind. Once they get their self replicating machinery going and using your DNA to produce their DNA sequences the first thing they do is they disarm P53 so a cell can no longer commit suicide. So this selenium—and you talked about keeping order in the universe—I look at selenium as the mineral that keeps order in the universe because it is the mineral that ultimately is responsible for all the anti-oxidation processes in the human body.

Bill:      So if someone smokes… We say that you probably ought to not smoke but let’s say you want to continue smoking. Is there anything that you could do to at least try to mitigate some of those effects?

Rich:    So many people have died from cigarette smoking. A couple years ago the smokers came in complaining about, “Why do my cigarettes taste so bad now?” And I said, “Well, the cigarette smokers are dying off faster than new ones can be created so they have to get you more addicted” and they came up with this big campaign that says, “We now have fire-safe cigarettes” and in other words, they keep going out. The claim was they were going to save 400 houses a year worldwide because people would smoke a cigarette in bed and if they had a fire-safe cigarette then it wouldn’t burn the house down. But the bottom line, from what I can see, is the chemical added to the cigarette is nothing more than a nicotine delivery system.

So the first thing you do is you get off any of the fire-safe cigarettes and you get to what actually might be a more natural tobacco that’s not being cured in a 36 hour period with high amounts of propane heat because the propane heat does something called methylation and then you’re catching methylation on fire. It’d be like smoking Vicks VapoRub. You need to get to tobacco that’s been cured in houses for three to five weeks and is propane free and is insecticide free. One of the other things we see in the hair samples of people that smoke a lot is arsenic, especially if they go from, “Well, I don’t smoke anymore. I chew” there is a trace amount of arsenic that is applied to the plant to keep the insects under control and it’s an arsenic based one. Then, of course, you always have to get back to taking organic selenium—the selenomethionine–  as a bare minimum to keep your DNA code working—polonium 210 removal and the antiviral effects that it provides.

Bill:      Okay, so that’s helpful. Let’s talk about a couple other sort of things that can go wrong. I know we’re kind of jumping back and forth but just in listening to you previously, I think that there are some other… We’re not talking about curing diseases here as much as we’re talking about just prevention and we don’t want our good folks at the FDA and the medical guys mad at us so we want to keep ourselves from getting all the different killers. Let’s talk about… You’d mentioned multiple sclerosis. Let’s talk about multiple sclerosis. Let’s talk about aluminum—what happens when you get some aluminum in you, fluoride in the water. All these different things—it’s back to that sequencing, that protein sequencing again.

Rich:    Well, [inaudible 0:28:23.6] because some of my genetic research goes way back to one of my best friends being diagnosed with MS and now he’s to the point that he can’t take himself to the bathroom. He just lays there and waits for pumps to go off in his belly so his body quits spazzing out. So I read about that heavily and to this day there is no real gene sequence that they say that goes bad. But yet we know it’s a latitude sickness, meaning vitamin D is directly involved with the ability to regenerate the brain at some point. And then what I had found quite interesting is that one in eight human beings have an iron problem and it’s called hemochromatosis.

And there is a new doctor that’s on the scene that’s actually saying all the blood doesn’t drain out of your brain properly, leaving iron behind. And he’s actually going into people’s skulls. He’s stretching out these veins that drain the head and it’s not leaving iron behind. So it’s very possible that some of these cases may be just hemochromatosis of the brain because of kinked veins leaving the head. And they straighten those things out and he’s starting to prove to people that the brains can regenerate when you get the kink out of it. Now if you want to speed up the healing of the brain, early MS patients should know that vitamin D level in their blood—without any questions they should know that—and then last but not least I do believe that selenium has some ability to help detoxify the brain if you’re getting chemicals built up that aren’t supposed to be built up.

Now the aluminum is another interesting mineral. The most well known, publicized aluminum toxicity is called dialysis dementia and when dialysis machines first came out they just plugged them into the city water and they just started filtering blood and some people would all of a sudden, their hands would start to shake and then they would lose the ability to speak and then within days they were dead. So a big investigation went on and they found out that the cities that added aluminum sulfate to the drinking water seemed to be the culprits so they had to nationalize or in other words make everything the same, as far as dialysis machines and water supply goes.

But there have been studies where the lab rats were given, for example, the city of Detroit drinking water and within 30 seconds they would find this aluminum in the brain. I believe research is going to get to the point that they realize that there are thousands of molecular motors on the blood-brain barrier. Just like aluminum goes into your armpit and it stops the communication between nerves so your sweat gland doesn’t make moisture for bacteria to live in. They’re going to find out that the blood-brain barrier is rich in phosphorus and it attracts this aluminum like a magnet and it shuts down various energy… how do I say this? Your brain builds up with waste material and the molecular motors designed to pump the waste out of the brain are basically being stalled out and the proteins are building up. Aluminum is kind of a bad deal and it’s becoming more and more prevalent as acid rain takes the aluminum in the soil, which is the third or fourth most abundant element, and turns it from a solid to a liquid and then it starts inter-reacting in the food chain.

The third mineral that you had talked about was fluoride. Well, I took a look at some work done by Texas A&M where they took 100% purity of minerals and they put them into an MRI machine and they dialed in their magnets at 100 megahertz, which equals one spin for hydrogen—kind of technical—but they know exactly to a millionth of a megahertz where these minerals start dancing in the petri plate. And it looks like all accountabilities—the math that I’m doing—DNA oscillates between 70-76 megahertz, except there is an oddball… Like say carbon oscillates at 25 megahertz, calcium at 6, potassium at 6, magnesium at 6. Phosphorus gives us all the energy to stay alive. It’s all the way up to 46 megahertz.

Well, there is an oddball mineral that’s called fluorine and if you live in an iodine deficient area and you’re using fluoride products like dental floss and fluoride toothpaste and Teflon coated frying pans, your body mistakenly will pick this fluoride molecule up and put it into the thyroxine molecule. Well now the fluoride gets to piggyback into the cell. And now when it’s in the cell this is going to exert a weak magnetic effect and I believe that it’s going to be causing the strands of DNA to expand at a greater frequency than they were designed and we’ll find out a lot of misreading of the DNA sequences is going to be eventually tied to fluoride toxicity.

Bill:      That’s fascinating. So you think that there are some changes in how the perception of these DNA strands are just the readings thus far. You think that there is maybe some misinterpretation because of the fluoride?

Rich:    Well, it’s been proven that our DNA code expands and contracts just like summer and winter and night and day and right and left and up and down—all the yin-yang things. Our DNA code expands and contracts a little bit every day. So if we take a look at what the Chinese people say, they say energy from the universe enters the body at 4:00AM in the morning and the opposite of 4:00AM would be 4:00PM. In the book, Minerals for the Genetic Code, iodine is regenerating at 4:00 in the afternoon—opposite of when the energy enters the body. So if our DNA code is sitting here at 70 megahertz and it’s going to expand to 76 megahertz by 4:00 in the afternoon, at no time during the day is our DNA code the exact same frequency.

It’s either expanding or contracting and it may have a frequency at one point in the day. The only other time in the day it’d have the same frequency would be 12 hours later, except the energy is going either up or down in an opposite cycle. This is what gives us our circadian cycles. They know that certain genes turn on every time of the day. This is what allows us to go to sleep at night. This is what allows us to get into rhythm of nature. If your genes aren’t being read right and your proteins aren’t being made right then your circadian cycles get all messed up and your body doesn’t know when to rest. It doesn’t know when to pick up and get going. And you basically get out of sync.

Bill:      I have a crazy question for you. If someone has to work third shift should they be mineralizing any differently than someone that’s up during normal hours?

Rich:    My experience of 30 years—it’s a rare breed that can take that night shift and work it to their advantage but there are people out there that know how to function and they function really good. It’s the people that get the swing shift that have been proven to die much earlier in life because their body never really, truly establishes the circadian cycles. And I look at these people, “Oh yeah, bad week. I’m on midnights. Can’t wait to get off them.” They’re okay for morning. They’re okay for the afternoon shift. But boy, those midnights kill. And I say, “Why do you think they do that?” They go, “Well, I don’t know” and I say, “Oh, wow. I just think it’s they don’t want to pay so much pensions later in life.”

Bill:      They’re knocking them off.

Rich:    That’s one way of looking at it.

Bill:      Yeah, yeah. I have another question about one of the things that came up that was probably one of the more fascinating, rare elements that came up in your study was yttrium and its role in bacteria. Do you want to…? That’s a huge story but I think… I’m interested in bacteria in the gut but I’m also interested in that seven year Sabbath cycle where bacteria starts to grow in a way that’s a little better than normal years and yttrium’s value to plants and to the bacteria that’s in a field so that plants can utilize the minerals—talk about yttrium a little bit.

Rich:    Well, when I first came up with this code I was really… I didn’t even know what the word yttrium was. If the body is going to make a protein it has a starting point and the starting point, about 99% of the time, is methionine. There is always an ending to a protein sequence. It’s kind of like you always put a capital at the beginning of a sentence and you put a period at the end of the sentence. So when the body needs to put a period, it’s initiated and the periods are either sulfur or hydrogen based. And the third period showed up on this code as yttrium, yet you never really see yttrium in the body.

Chaim T. Horowitz wrote some of the best books on that. I was fascinated to see that animals never got sick when they give them a shot of yttrium chloride. It all ended up in the stool. And I said, “Well, why not the lungs? Why not the kidneys? Why not the skin?” Our skin can be a mode of excretions. Obviously our kidneys and our bladder are modes of excretions and it’s the case with tellurium from garlic and selenium, you end up getting garlic breath because of the minerals that are bleeding into the atmosphere. Why did the yttrium go to the intestinal tract?

Bill:      Dr. Olree, and this is based on a study that was done on animals?

Rich:    Well yeah, there were dogs, in particular.

Bill:      What did they do? —Just to give the listener a little context.

Rich:    Oh, this book that I’m citing is called Yttrium and in the book they talked about all the different studies that had been done over time and I found one of the studies interesting, that the animals did not get sight reaction, they didn’t seem to get sick but when they went looking, “Where did the yttrium go?” it ended up being shuttled into the intestinal tract as the primary means of excretions. Well, I said, “Why would the body need the yttrium in the intestinal tract?” Now most people, if you said, “What is your immune system?” they would say, “Well, it keeps me from being sick” and I go, “Where is your immune system?” and they look at you and they scratch their head and they go, “I don’t know.” Well, your immune system is one hundred trillion bacteria strong and it’s found in your small and large intestine and these things have different requirements than our cells. We basically have ten bacteria converting the food we eat to the substances that our white blood cells pick up and deliver all around the body for constant maintenance and repair for the body.

Well yttrium, on that third period so to speak, is substituted in the human body by selenium. It’s called the 21st amino acid. It’s a selenocysteine molecule. So when the human DNA code calls for that spot that’s called yttrium in the bacteria world, in the human, it inserts selenium into the protein sequence so the body can control the oxidation reaction rates at which we go about business. But bacteria seem to have a need for yttrium to help create the vitamins we have. It’s part of a nitrogen cycle. When lightning, for example, we had some storms go through here and they said there 13,000 hits of lightning that occurred in a four hour period and that lightning dropped all the nitrogen down to the soil and the bacteria in the soil convert that nitrogen into a usable plant form and then we eat the plant. Well then our hundred trillion bacteria take and reconvert that nitrogen into what’s called vitamins—vitamin B1—all your B vitamins from 1-17 occur because they’re nitrogen based with the proper bacteria in your gut. And yttrium seems to be a mineral that helps the body drive that selenocysteine into a protein sequence, which is poorly understood so far.

Bill:      If you look up yttrium there is a lot more on yttrium than there was in 2006 on the internet but if you look up yttrium I think the belief is there is still no need for human beings to have yttrium, right? At least ostensibly.

Rich:    They said that about boron and they’re just slowly coming around to the fact that the mineral boron is becoming more and more recognized as a need. Too much of anything can do you in but if you do not have enough boron I think that the aluminum factor can really get to you. Yttrium—if you really look up yttrium at Pub Med, what you find is yttrium 90 and it’s used to study cartilage in the knees and synovial fluid seems to accumulate there and I think the body doesn’t know what to do with it other than to put it into an already sick area for some way of getting it out of the system. So we do not have yttrium supplements. I don’t know that there ever will be a yttrium supplement.

So I turn to the bacteria to try to etch out any of the selenium we may need by making sure that we have the bifidobacteria species—the bifidobacterium longum, the bifidobacterium infantis—as an incent—and bifidobacterium adolescentis. What I found quite interesting—there is a bacteria called bifidobacterium animalis and what came first—the chicken or the egg? Somehow when a chicken is being a created and it’s born, it already has the bifidobacterium animalis inside it’s intestinal tract and that bacteria grew as the egg grew, as opposed to humans that use colostrum to get their initial bacteria to flood their system so that they can then process the mother’s milk.

Bill:      So bacteria—so the only known… I guess the point is for protein sequencing, you need bacteria in your gut. Let’s reduce this down to layman language the best we can. You need bacteria in your gut and your bacteria also have protein sequencing.

Rich:    Oh gosh, yeah.

Bill:      And protein for bacteria, the bifidos—they need yttrium as part of their protein sequencing, right?

Rich:    They need trace amounts of yttrium for their protein sequencing, from the way I… I’ll take the entire genome out of Pub Med and I had a computer program wrote that allows me to take and break down the individual amino acids, assign the mineral that we’ve got, in the book Minerals for the Genetic Code and then derive the amount of times it shows up. Well, the first time I did this I took everybody’s favorite bacteria, acidophilus—“Oh yes, I eat yogurt.” Taking antibiotics? “Yeah.” Are you taking probiotics? “Yes, I’m eating acidophilus” and I look at them. I go, “Well, that’s just one of hundreds of good bacteria your body needs.” The most important mineral needed for that, in terms of the whole genome aspect, was aluminum and I was quite disappointed because boron was quite far down the list.

And then I decided to figure out, “Why should I be so arrogant to think that life forms didn’t evolve using aluminum.” It is the third most abundant element in the crust of the Earth. And I did other bacteria but when I hit on the bifido species aluminum went from number one down to number 40 and boron went from the bottom of the chart to the top of the chart and so did yttrium. So I could look at protein sequences and say, “Well, based on the period needed to end the sentence so a protein is made, we’ve got a hydrogen based life form or we have a sulfur based life form or we have one that has high needs for yttrium to complete its life cycle.” So I look at the bifido bacteria as the species of bacteria in the immune system, found in your intestines, with the greatest need for trace amounts of yttrium from your food.

Bill:      So practically, what happens to bacteria that don’t have any yttrium? And you can have that same problem that we’ve been discussing. You’re going to have messed up sequencing and you’re going to have a shutoff switch that doesn’t work, right?

Rich:    Well, it just doesn’t work. They’re not able to multiple. And if they’re not able to multiply because they’re not getting the right food chain their numbers just continually drop. I took a look at a chart that was drawn up and it says when a person was born, through colostrum they had so many trillions and trillions of bifidobacterium longum and as they aged the bacteria content kept going down and down and down to when they were 80-85 they almost didn’t have any.

And there were two other linear graphs that absolutely followed that. One was HGH—human growth hormone—and the other one was pancreatic amylase. So I went in to Pub Med—homosapien—and found both pancreatic amylase and human growth hormone, took that protein sequence. He copied and pasted and did an output and those were needing high amounts of yttrium in the sequencing provided by the bacteria. So I started saying to myself, “Gosh, if these bacteria start sliding downhill then you’re going to have less and less of key hormones that keep you going” so essentially the faster we age is because we’re basically lacking good nutrition. We have food maybe passing through us or if we don’t have the right bacteria—maybe funguses, molds, yeast and things we might not even know about—growing in our gut.

Bill:      So there is a relationship here between let’s say yttrium—as crazy as that is—and human growth hormone? That’s what you’re saying, as we age.

Rich:    I drew that parallel.

Bill:      That’s your conclusion that you sort of thought. That’s one of you “thoughts for the day.”

Rich:    Pancreatic amylase. Dr. Kelly—the guy went to his grave trying to say, “Cancer can be beat by just making sure your pancreas is working right” and I just took a look at that and I go, “Man, I just think I’ve got to make sure I’ve got the right bacteria growing in my gut at all times.”

Bill:      So don’t give your book away because people really need to buy your book. But in your book you talk about some of the plants that have yttrium in them. What plants have yttrium in them?

Rich:    Before I answer that question, I just got an email last week—Minerals for the Genetic Code will be going to its third edition so it is slowly being read by more and more people. I do go into and it hasn’t gone down below $14 yet so I was quite happy on that. If anybody wants to pick up the book, they can hit my website up— and/or AcresUSA—they sell it.

Bill:      Yeah, you can get it on Amazon. You can get it on your site. We’ll probably pick it up. We’ll get a caseload from you and try to sell them too. It’s just a book everybody needs to read. As I said, Chuck was so excited before he passed away, about the implications of—not necessarily where the book was at the time—but where it could go down the road. In other words, I think he saw this as a stepping-stone… Just you never know what’s going to happen, who’s going to pick it up and read it, what they’re going to do, what research is going… Somebody’s got to start something and you…

Rich:    That Minerals for the Ocean Fertility—I had talked to Chuck on a Sunday and he said, “I’m going to have a book sent to you” and I said, “You better do it soon. I’m going to take a vacation in Florida.” He overnighted it to me and I read it on the airplane from Detroit to Tampa and I’m going, “My gosh, no wonder he likes to talk to me.” I said, “This is the prelude to Minerals for the Genetic Code.” Now you asked a question. We were really worried when we wrote this book about codex alimentarium– in other words, somebody trying to stop your ability to walk into a health food store and buy iodine or boron or selenium– so what we did is there is a very intelligent that worked for the United States government. His name is Dr. James Duke.

And we went to his website, which was, and we got his permission written that we could query all the plants by the parts per million, billion or trillion of… What we could do—let’s say that you no longer had a health food store to go to—what plant would you eat to get rubidium? What plant would you get to eat molybdenum? And we quantitatively put in—basically it’s the last one third of the book—is “Where, in nature, do you get all the minerals we wrote about?” And then when the first edition ended we were getting ready to come out with the second edition and I got a phone call from a gentleman and he said, “That book is lacking the knowledge if that’s a toxic plant, an edible plant or a medicinal plant” and I collaborated and the second and the third edition will have—if you look at that plant—it says that it’s got so much boron in it and then you can look over and find out if you can even eat it.

Bill:      That would be helpful, wouldn’t it?

Rich:    It’d be real helpful.

Bill:      Well, here’s what I think the value of this book, to our listeners—and I, long ago, thought about codex alimentarius as well—and this is a self-reliance and survival book, in a sense. What if there was—heaven forbid… You’re safe being way up there in Michigan but what if there was some bit of a societal breakdown? Wouldn’t it be interesting to know where to go get vital nutrients from the earth that are already there or plants that you could self-consciously plant in your garden to produce the same effects—probably better effects, Dr. Olree—than if you took the supplement, right?

Rich:    Well, in nature… Of course nature has everything tied up into it that you’re supposed to have to make anything work. Every different plant has a different gene code and every different plant has a different frequency. I took a look at this A1, A2 milk issue. I don’t know if you are familiar with that at all? But about 50% of the cows in the United States are producing A1 milk and they know that that causes people to become asthmatic. They know it turns on the mucous secreting gene. So I took a look at this and I found the protein sequences and I can show you clearly that not all milk is created equal. Well, the A1 milk has a given frequency and A2 milk has a different frequency.

And I said, “There isn’t anybody that’s going to understand this.” I’ve been lecturing for Organic Valley for a couple of years. I said, “If anybody could understand this and explain it to all the dairy farmers” I thought that I could do that and I started a company called the A1 A2 Gene Testing Company so organic farmers can send samples of their organic cows to us and then we ship it to New Zealand and report back to the farmer which cows that they should process or which ones they should keep milking because we’re trying to see type one diabetes and asthma and all the dairy related problems—we’d like to see the organic industry lead by example and over a short period of time—5-7 years—make all the cows in the organic industry a morphine free product. Most people don’t know that when you drink milk you’re getting trace amounts of morphine in the milk. It’s frequency driven. Your body doesn’t look at that and say, “Oh, that’s milk.” Only the conscious mind does.

When I take a look at what mainstream doctors do and alternative doctors do—whether you’re homeopathy, a naturopath, a massage therapist, a chiropractor—strong magnetic energy is like sticking your finger into a socket and you’re going to get a pretty good poke. But what’s generated out of strong energy is called “weak magnetic field” and these magnetic fields are quite mapped. You can take a device and walk it up to a light and three feet away you can read these energy fields off. What we do with the human body is we look at all the weak magnetic energy and I think that foot reflexology and hand reflexology and laid out in the acupuncture meridians is a really good way of looking how weak magnetic energy goes through your system and it’s all the trace minerals that give the strength to these weak magnetic energy fields. The right minerals will give you the right frequencies so that your protein sequences can be made right the first time around—not the second, third or fourth—and so on. Somebody says, “Well, what’s the difference between regular farming and organic farming?” I go, “Minerals.”

Bill:      Sure.

Rich:    It’s just minerals. It’s genetic expression. And when I take a look at what the brand name Round Up does, it basically does not let plants having access to minerals… It destroys the beneficial bacteria in the soil that allow for the ribosomes of the roots of the plant to absorb the trace minerals and then it actually takes the minerals themselves and kind of bubble wraps them so that plants don’t have access to them. Then we genetically modify these plants to exist without minerals and to become more tolerant to these chemicals and then we eventually end up eating the chemicals that have no minerals.

Bill:      That’s a good way to cover it all. I was thinking as you were talking, what if I drank raw milk from cows that were grazed on grass, obviously, but what if I had other sort of yttrium plants? What if I had sort of plants that had iodine, that I planted specifically, that were designed for iodine? What if I had drank milk that had the right kind of selenium because the cow grazed on property that had access to those minerals? Would that be an interesting concoction?

Rich:    Well, back to Paul Detloff—he is the head vet for Organic Valley. He calls me up and he says, “Richard, we’ve got to do a study to prove what sea kelp is doing to our organic cows.” I said, “Well, that’s a no-brainer, Paul.” I said, “We all know that iodine and all these great minerals we have are found in sea kelp and you’re giving them to the cows. Why don’t we just run a tissue mineral analysis?” He said, “What do you mean?” I said, “Let’s grab some hair, send it down and have someone tell us about the minerals in it.” And we did an analysis of organic cows on sea kelp and standard feedlot cows—it was a very small, pilot study—we did two farms in the state of Michigan and we did two farms in the state of Wisconsin. We got the results back and I started looking at it. To me, iodine is the single most important mineral there is. Organic cows on sea kelp had 8,450% more iodine in their hair.

Bill:      That is amazing.

Rich:    They had 150% more boron in their hair and the bad minerals—lead, cadmium—all the bad minerals, the organic cows came in better. The only two minerals that didn’t change was calcium and magnesium because that’s a pretty constant thing when you’re pushing so much stuff through cows to create milk. But all the good minerals—and that can be found on the internet, a simple Google of “sea kelp and organic dairy cows,” it’s out there—and we wrote it up and we put it in the Acres Magazine. It was a fascinating study to be involved with. So when you talk about organic cows, I do believe the majority of your… Well, I don’t know of any organic dairy farms that don’t heavily use sea kelp. Now we’ve got to start taking a look at where the kelp is coming from because just this morning I read where Bluefin tuna has sped up the movement of cesium 134 and 137 from Fukushima Japan to the United States west coast…

Bill:      So now we’ve got radioactive kelp coming.

Rich:    Well, yeah. The kelp are picking up a lot of radioactive kelp. I got an email the other day that says, “Dr. Olree—mineral complex—where does the kelp from?” I said, “It comes from the north side of Iceland.” Well she said, “How fresh is it?” I said, “I don’t know how you could put this in terms of freshness. They can only harvest the kelp two and a half months a year being on the north side of Iceland.” But it is—on the wind drift charts—it’s still devoid of the cesium 135 and 137 coming from Fukushima and that, in itself, is a really big problem because if you don’t have good iodine, good selenium and you don’t have good vitamin D and you start inhaling any of these particles—these little, tiny, unseen particles from the fallout from that plant—you could be into a lot of trouble. It’s been estimated, by Ernie Gunderson and another person, that on top of our already really high cancer rates the Fukushima disaster could add another million a year within 20 years to this burden.

Bill:      Especially to people—as we’ve been mentioning—especially to people who already maybe don’t have the right types of minerals and then when that comes as added stressors, you’re going to have sequencing problems and they’re the first crop that it takes off, right?

Rich:    Well no, actually the first crop’s already been creamed. December 11th of last year they came out with the first scientific report that says we’ve already experienced 14,000 Americans and Paris possibly up to 18,000 and that was updated last week to even possibly 25 since the writing of the article. The iodine 131, which is actually a gas—it’s not a mineral you can touch in your hands—is taken out and [inaudible 0:57:50.0] those 14,000, maybe up to 18 or 25 but who is it hitting? It’s hitting the newborns and the unborn.

Bill:      Okay, that’s tragic.

Rich:    Because it goes into the mother’s lungs and the body just shuttles that stuff right to the baby and essentially our babies have become dumpsters and a baby is lost and a couple cycles later the mother can make another one. Nature has it set up that way.

Bill:      Yeah, that’s something. I never really thought about that but yeah, we’re constantly shuttling, right? The bad stuff gets shuttled someplace.

Rich:    That’s right. I’ve seen reports that the umbilical cord junction between mother and baby, there are a couple of hundred chemicals just sitting there waiting to plow right into the baby. You detoxify a mother that way and then bam, she conceives and this goes back to that selenium and mercury deal. She conceives and the next things she knows she misses a period and then goes, “Well, I guess I just missed a period” and then kind of had a heavy one and all she did was the life was created but the life ended up becoming a detoxification point versus the creation of new life.

Bill:      Wow, that’s fascinating. We’re getting ready to kind of close up here. We’ve been an hour. Typical of you Rich—it’s five minutes—the next thing you know it’s three hours, kind of like your other conversations with people. But I do have a personal question. I’m interested in minerals for tumor suppressing genes. Where are the notes for that and whatever happened to that?

Rich:    Chuck and I wrote that book… It’s basically sitting underneath my desk. I’m going to rewrite it. It’s what Chuck and I worked on and it was at the end stages of his life and I’m reworking the book and I’m going out of town to my cottage in Canada in a couple of weeks. I’ve already got the name of the book picked out. It’s called Orthomolecular Genetics and I’m going to be going and explaining all the stuff behind the first book and giving people a really good understanding on how to look at the food chain in relation to everything you would buy in a health food store and give everything a frequency, so to speak, so there is a reference point.

Bill:      That’s going to be extremely helpful and I know… I’m not trying to put any pressure on you but when do you think you’re going to have that baby?

Rich:    Well, I said that to myself this morning. I didn’t even tell you about the book that I’m finishing up right now. I do house calls to the Amish and I have for eight years and I decided to write a book. It’s called An Amish Man’s Handy Guide to Vitamins, Minerals and Herbs in the Modern-day World and I lay out at a sixth to eighth grade reading level all the vitamins, all the minerals, all the amino acids. I’ve got 300 herbs in there, I’ve got 151 herbs of the Bible, what amino acids, what minerals are in it and then everything in a health food store is laid out for any layperson of any age, who can at least read to the fifth grade reading level. It’s a reference book and right now it’s 600 pages.

I got it back from my three screeners. It’s been rewritten. I’ve got to write a table of contents and an index and we plan on having it ready within the next 60 days. And when I’ve got that one out of my hair then I’m going full steam ahead because there is a $25,000 prize put out there—kind of a mini-Nobel Prize—by the orthomolecular people and I anticipate bringing that to their conference in a year and a half and then bidding for that project and then also having the book ready, probably within a year.

Bill:      We’d love to have you back when you get closer to that. It’s been great talking to you, Rich. I’ve always wanted to get you on the show and I’m glad Sarah connected with you. So we wish you well.

Rich:    Anytime.

Bill:      And the site—again, let’s just do a couple things—your site again.

Rich: I like the concept of Ebay so I went Emineral.

Bill:      And then here is another one that not too many people know about but we talked about some things that were somewhat complex today and folks listening to that may need some help putting that into some practical use. You have a nutritional consulting service at the office and I want to give the phone number there because I think just putting people in touch with you so they can get on the right plane, they can get this balance and this whole balance—getting your body balanced out—is the beginning of restoration and rest that allows you to be disease free perhaps even. Who knows? But it’s 989-742-4242. You can set up a nutritional consult. Would it be easier if they just went to the site, Rich, and filled the form out there?

Rich:    Oh yeah, we’ve got that and phone calls are always welcome.

Bill:      Okay, well you’ll get a few phone calls.

Rich:    We’ll take all we can. Right now I’m about six weeks booked out for my nutritional consults but everybody has got pressing problems and I try to address everybody that asks. I have been in practice for 31 years and I can handle a lot of stuff.

Bill:      Yep, you see quite a few patients a day I’m told. I’d even like to get up and… My daughter used to play basketball at Hillsdale and we used to get up north there and it’s a shame that I didn’t connect with you. We played Tech and some of those places way up north.

Rich:    I’m trying to get my daughter into Hillsdale volleyball program. I’d like to get her a scholarship there.

Bill:      Well, it was a great school and my daughter certainly—Steph—played basketball there so we could attest for the quality of the school.

Rich:    She got a good education. That’s for sure.

Bill:      She certainly did. She was taught that the Constitution is a pretty important thing so… Anyway Rich– Godspeed. Take care. Thanks so much for spending time with us. We know you’re a busy man and we really appreciate your time.

Rich:    Thank you for having me.

Bill:      You bet.

Rich:    Okay, good-by all.

Bill:      Thank you so much for your time. We know that your time is valuable and we certainly appreciate an hour of it, spending it with us.

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