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Lies, Damned Lies, and History – Episode 017

logoJoin us for an exciting broadcast this Friday on Off the Grid Radio as Bill Heid interviews John Eidsmoe, a professor of law at the Oak Brook College of Law and Government Policy, a retired Air Force lieutenant colonel, holder of five degrees in law, theology and political science, and the author of The Crash Course on the Constitution.

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Off The Grid Radio
Ep017
Released: October 15, 2010

Welcome to Off the Grid Radio, better ideas to bust you and your family out of today’s global control grid. Now here is today’s show.

Bill: And welcome everybody, it’s Bill Heid and Brian Brawdy is not here but Jeramy is here with a ski mask over his head filling in for Brian so welcome Jeramy.

Jeramy: Hello everybody.

Bill: And thanks for being here with me. Jeramy runs the helm here; he’s at the controls of the command center for Off Grid Radio. We’re so thankful you decided to listen to us today and we’ve got a very special guest, a good friend of ours, a great American, we have John Eidsmoe with us.

And John, I’ll just read a little bit of John’s bio, I could go on and on and on but I’ll just read a little bit of it just to give you an idea of where John is coming from and why this particular issue or episode of Off the Grid News Radio is such an important one.

John is a retired Air Force Lieutenant Coronel; he teaches or at least has taught Constitutional law at the Thomas Goode Jones School of Law in Montgomery. He’s earned outstanding professorship there, he’s a graduate of three seminaries, an ordained pastor at the association of free Lutheran congregation as well as an adjunct professor at Birmingham Theological Seminary, he’s a constitutional attorney, he defends home schools and Christian schools and champions the rights of students and teachers that study the bible in public schools.

He debates ACLU attorneys on radio and TV. He served on the Ten Commandments legal defense team in which capacity he wrote most of the briefs of the recent Alabama litigation. He’s also authored 12 books including one of my favorite books, “Christianity and Constitution”. He’s a specialist in Columbus and Cortez and he also has done the video series that we sell at thefoundersplan.com and then he’s worked through the Institute on the constitution.

And John your bio goes on and on, I know you love to ride horses, you love to – you used to practice martial arts if you still don’t. You’ve been married for more than 31 years, thank you so much for joining us.

John: Well, it’s a great pleasure to be with you Bill and Ashley, as far as our marriage, we have just passed the 40th hurdle there, we celebrated our 40th anniversary last August 8th and we were married no too far from where you were there in Marion Iowa.

Bill: Wow, well congratulations and we’ll have to update that bio that’s on the citizens for a constitutional republic site, that’s where I got your bio but you’re a man of God and I know your book, especially Christianity and Constitution has affected me. And my guess is we just recently saw a giant rally in Washington with the Glen Beck thing and my guess is folks there’s a lot of people that appear on Glen Beck’s show that talk about the constitution and talk about Christianity and the constitution have been heavily influenced by John’s book, Christianity and Constitution; the faith of the founding fathers, it’s such an important book. And I know it affected even Rush Dooney had written a lot about that book John so kudos on that and thank you so much for everything you’ve done in terms of trying to shape our country and trying to pull it back to where it came from.

John: I appreciate that Bill and you know when you’re writing in those areas of course you could write books in these areas and end up with a garage full of books but the real benefit of this is persons like yourself who are out there getting the word across to the listeners and the readers and making these products available and you are a vital link in the communication process.

Bill: Well, thank you very much, we’re trying to get the word out, I mean we tend to be people marketers and people that have persuasive skills and we want to take the work set that folks like yourself has accomplished and run with it and just try to get as many people to – just avail it to as many people as we can. Let’s talk a little bit – I was mentioning to you before that last night I had watched a little bit of the series on the Institute and I was taken back again by the motivations of early exploration. And before we get into some of the other issues that we want to talk about as far as the constitution, I’d like to talk about – I’d like to set it up for you a little and talk a little bit about what was on this continent and what’s the history of the actual continent? So I am interested in motivations, what motivated the early discoverers and who were the early discoverers?

I think what you have to say in that regard is quite a surprise for most people who have been educated in public schools.

John: Well we know for sure that Vikings were on the North American continent somewhere around 1000 AD, the 0:05:16 Neurophagas were very clear about this and anyway geographically the things they described and the sagas correspond with North America’s geography but the was some question about this until Helga Ingstad with some of his archaeological work in the 1960’s and when he discovered the Lonzo Meadows site in Newfoundland and found Viking artifacts that he carbon dated back to 1000 AD.

I don’t think anybody today questions that Vikings were here about that time. Now of course there’s the possibility that there were earlier explorers, Brendan the Bold of Ireland and Henry Sinclair of the Orkney Islands and possibly a Chinese expedition and some talk about Phoenicians and other expeditions that would be much earlier than this but the Vikings are the ones that we know for sure were here.

Now one thing that will surprise a lot of people is that those Vikings who came and established those colonies about 1000 AD were mostly professing Christians. We think of Vikings to us as being Thor worshipers and Oden worshipers and in an earlier time they had been but Erik the Red who was the chieftain of the Greenland colony had sent his son Leif to Norway to spend a winter with King Olaf Tryggvason – that was kind of the custom that a chief would send his son to the king’s palace there and king Olaf had only about a decade before been converted to Christianity, converted by a warrior monk from Germany by the name of Thangrand and innocently Thangrand had a cross on his shield and when Olaf asked what that cross meant he explained Christianity and Olaf became a very zealous Christian.

And Olaf preached Christianity to everybody he was in contact with and well to be honest about it he sometimes used force to convert people to Christianity. But Leif readily accepted Christianity and Olaf’s court and was baptized and when he prepared to return to Greenland for the summer then King Olaf said you are to go there with a mission from me to preach Christianity in Greenland. And most of the Greenlanders accepted Christianity, there were some like Erik who probably did not but when Leif, a few years later organized a colony to go to North America, most of those in the colony were Christians.

Again there were a few who were not and one of the interesting things is one of those who were not was a man called Thorhal the Hunter and much like the Pilgrims and much like the Jamestown settlers in that first winter, they almost starved. But a whale, a dead whale washed ashore and anyway Thorhal the Hunter said to the rest of them that this was my reward for my praises that I sang to Thor and Thor seldom failed me.

When the Christians there found that this whale was in fact sent by Thor they refused to eat it even though they were starving. And anyway they did make it through the winter and after that, things were better but you do see that they themselves were strong professing Christians.

Now there’s a contrast I would draw between them and Christopher Columbus and the Spanish and the French and later the English settlers and that’s that while they were Christians the later settlers like Columbus and others came with a motivation of spreading the gospel. It doesn’t appear from the saga’s that the North had any interest in sharing the gospel with the Sqwarlings as they called them, in other words American Indians that – of course they were badly outnumbered by them and there was hostility from the beginning but my own belief is that those colonies lasted only a few years and God did not bless those colonies because they didn’t come to share Christ. And the others did and that’s why he blessed those colonies and not the North.

And so the North Colonies after a few years they’re abandoned, their survivors go back to Greenland and Ireland and Iceland and Norway and their impact on history is virtually nothing in contrast to the way Columbus and other explorers changed the face of the world.

Bill: John, we’ll be back in just a minute. Let’s take a little break here and let’s touch on Columbus a little bit because again there’s been a lot of things said about Columbus that just ain’t so as Mark Twain said. We’ll be right back with Off the Grid News Radio.

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Bill: Welcome back everybody, we’re talking to John Eidsmoe and we just got done talking about what I think is a very exciting subject that the Christian colonization of North America and let’s John let’s talk a little bit about Columbus. You’ve written a book on Columbus so we’ve got a little time to touch on him before – what was his motivation as he set sail in 1492?

John: To understand Columbus’s motivation I think we need to look to the situation in the old world at that time, that we had just finished an episode of several hundred years of the crusades and there was a great fear of Muslim expansion through the Ottoman Turks at this time in fact, when Columbus was a little boy we see 1453, the year that Constantinople fell to the Turks and we see a fear throughout Europe at that time. There was also a belief that people of far Asia either were Christians or could easily be reached through Christianity and there was a desire by Henry the Navigator of Portugal and others to build a fleet that could sail to Asia and build a worldwide Christian alliance that could stand against the power of Islam. And so Columbus was simply saying to the powers that be in Spain and Portugal and England look you want to get to Asia with the gospel? The best way to get to Asia is to sail straight West across the Atlantic and you will be there.

And actually Columbus was wrong on some of his calculations, he had misunderstood what the ancients meant when they spoke about degree of longitude and latitude and he thought the distance from Spain to China was about what the distance actually is from Spain to North America. And no wonder then when he landed he found these darker skinned people and he called them Indians because if his calculations had been correct they would have been people from Asia.

But his goal was to reach them with the gospel and it’s interesting when you read his journal, the regular journal that he kept on ship that he writes an entry for August 12, 1492 that what we call Columbus day and that was the first day they sighted land that they came on shore, they called that land San Salvador, which means Holy Savior and it probably was Watling Island off the coast of Florida although they were not sure of that. But he talks about the people there and how friendly the people were. If you look in the Caribbean I might say that there were basically two groups, there were the Arawaks or Tainos as they’re sometimes called who were kind of the older culture, they were dying out and they were friendly.

And then in the southern Caribbean, there were the Carobs or Canubes and from them we get the word cannibal and they were literally eating the Arawaks alive and they were the spreading culture but these that he encountered first we’re these peaceful Tiano or Arawaks. And so he writes in his journal that he had met these people that he had given them beads and other things that they seemed to value very much. And he talks about how they seem so much our friends and then he says I believe that they would easily be made Christians for I do not perceive in them any religion.

On that of course he was wrong; they did have a religion of human sacrifice and cannibalism. He writes four days later that I believe that they would easily turn Christian if we can get interpreters to preach the gospel to them for they are very good at understanding. Notice he is not saying these people are dummies and we can fool them, he is saying these are smart people and if we can share the gospel with them they’ll become Christians, but that very clearly was motivation.

You go on a little bit from Columbus and you look to Cortez, a man who is much more controversial. If Columbus is controversial, Cortez is notorious but if you go back to the original accounts like for example the book that was written, the five volume work by Bernal Diaz who was one of his foot soldiers that he titled the conquest of New Spain by Bernal Diaz. Descostio, one of his conquerors and as he describes in minute detail the day to day work of the expedition and then the other work comparable to it by Lopez Sudemaro who was Cortez’s personal chaplain that they describe a very different picture. They describe a man, Cortez who was committed to spreading the gospel, who sees this as a further crusade but we don’t understand many times is that in Central America you had a highly civilized group of people called the Aztecs and they had  remarkable technology and in many respects, far superior than anything in Europe. But they also had a very macabre religion of human sacrifice and cannibalism and the like.

And as Cortez and his men discover what this religion is and they come to these temples where they see human sacrifices taking place atop of the temple and they see this one city they go through, they count the mound of skulls and calculate 30,000 human skulls in that monument and they are just utterly horrified by this. And in city after city where Cortez goes that through an interpreter that he had and that itself is a miraculous story but through an interpreter he would preach the gospel to these people. He would stand atop the temple and take the idols up there and roll them down the steps after breaking the heads off them, knowing very well that the next body that might come rolling down the steps headless might be his own.

And many of these people were very responsive to the gospel and responsive to Cortez because they hated the Aztecs. The Aztecs were tyrants who ruled over them and in fact when finally Cortez surrounds Mexico City with an army of 200,000, that army consists of about 500 to 1000 Spaniards and the other 99 plus percent being Native Americans and 0:21:41 and many other nationalities who simply wants to be rid of Aztec rule. They regarded him not as a conqueror but as a liberator.

Bill: Well that’s a fascinating look and that’s not something that most folks get when they again study this period. I certainly wasn’t groomed; I didn’t realize that until I read some of your book, your book on Columbus and Cortez. So making a little quick comment, we’ve got about a minute here before we go to break. It seems like what Montezuma was engineering there John was a classic what we see in Pagan government where the state is God and so Montezuma is both the state and to some degree the God or a sub-God. Is that a good look at this?

John: That is a good look at it. Unlike a lot of Pagan societies from what I can tell, the Aztecs did not believe their rulers were divine. Now many in the old world believe that, the Aztecs did not but they did believe that their king was the high priest toward the supreme God, the Sun God that they worshipped. And that the sacrifices that he and his priest would perform, these were vital to the health of not only the empire but the colonists as a whole so they thought of him as their high priest. There was no such thing – that separation of church and state in any sense then but from what I can tell, unlike in the old world and also I should add, unlike the Incas that they didn’t regard their emperor as being a God.

Bill: Okay, well let’s talk about that and we’ll walk into the colonial period when we come back. This is Bill Heid at Off the Grid Radio and we’ll be right back.

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Bill: Thank you again everyone for listening this is Bill Heid talking to John Eidsmoe about history and the history of the colonization of this side coming from Europe and some of the Christian motivations and I want to segway John a little bit and kind of talk about what happened in the early colonial periods so were talking about systems of totalitarianism in other places, we could talk about that with the Aztecs the Incas where you have, you know there wasn’t any balance of the one in the many. But here The Puritans now, here comes Jamestown and here comes the Puritans up north. What’s their philosophy of life, what’s their motivation, what’s their philosophy of government?

John: They were very different from that of the Aztecs and Maya and the Inca and I should add to that that was not true of all Native Americans. Those in Central and South America tended to be totalitarian as far as their view of government but those in North America tended to be very different particularly one of those that some of the early settlers would have contact with, the Iroquois. The Iroquois were a confederation first of five nations and then a sixth, the Tuscaroras join them, they had what they called the great law of peace or what some called the Iroquois Constitution and it is a remarkable document, the way it balances power between the big Brothers that is the two larger nations and the two little brothers, the smaller nations and the other one is in between. The way it even balances power between men and women and it’s interesting the way they do this, only a man could be a chief but only the women could nominate Chiefs. In other words they thought maybe the women would see characteristics in the men folk that the men might miss.

Bill: That’s very interesting.

John: But anyway 0:29:51 submitted a remarkable Constitution and seems like Ben Franklin and possibly Jefferson were somewhat familiar with the Iroquois Confederacy how much any of the rest of the 0:30:02 was is not really clear but when you look to the Puritans and the pilgrims who come to New England back there starting in 1620 and in the decades that followed, they are staunch Calvinists and even part of the parliamentary party in England where they believed in limiting the power of the king. And they believed very strongly in number one, the higher law of God which was found in the Scripture and many of these New England colonies virtually based there first law codes upon Old Testament Scripture and typically after setting forth passages in Scripture and setting them out as criminal offenses and punishments and so on then they would add, for all offenses not named here the punishment will be consistent with the word of God. And the Mayflower Compact which is one of our founding documents – here’s what’s interesting about the compact is that they draft this compact wall they are still onboard in Plymouth Harbor before they come ashore because they know they are going to need a system of government.

They didn’t realize that it first because they had been organized by the Virginia company and they thought they were coming to the Virginia colony and the exact borders Virginia at that time were not clear but when they were blown way, way off course to the north they realize this is not Virginia anymore. And so when we land were not going to be subject to the Virginia colony so we’re free to draft our own Constitution and that Constitution they draft is called the Mayflower Compact. And it begins with the words and the name of God on them, we use names are underwritten, the names of our loyal subjects of our dread sovereign Lord King James by the grace of God of Great Britain, France, and Ireland king defender of the faith, having undertaken for the glory of God the advancement of the Christian faith in the honor of our king and Queen a voyage to plant these first colonies in the northern parts of Virginia. Then they go on to say they were organized together by a civil body policy but clearly their motivation in coming was to worship God as they believed God had commanded in his word that he be worshiped. To say they came here for religious freedom would be partly true not entirely because they were not all that eager to grant religious freedoms to others who might want to come and join their colony but they themselves wanted to be free, that seems very clear.

Then we looked to the southern colonies, Virginia, the Carolinas, Georgia and there we find the motivation is a little more difficult to determine, they aren’t quite as explicit about their Christian faith as those at the New England were but when we look to what happened in that colony, Jamestown in particular we’ll start with. That was well actually that was the second, Roanoke, the first vanished and we don’t know what happened to this but when they first came ashore they plant crops, they have a worship service. And their first pastor, the Reverend West gives regular sermons to them and Bible studies and the like. And one of the things in their charter from the Virginia colony and England was that one of their reasons for coming was to bring the Protestant religion and that was for a couple of reasons, one, they wanted to convert the natives that they came in contact with but also they were concerned about Spanish colonies, Catholic colonies to the south and French Catholic colonies to the north. And they wanted to ensure that a Protestant Christian presence was there in the main area of the Atlantic seaboard colonies. And we see that in the first several years of the Jamestown colony that 90% of those settlers that first came, 90% five years later are dated and they had had such hardships that frankly their mission of evangelism was put on the back burner unfortunately. But they did convert some of the natives to Christianity and one of them in particular, Pocahontas married an English nobleman John Rolfe and she went back to England with John Rolfe for the stated written purpose of raising funds in England to build a school to teach her people the Christian faith but of course she fell sick in England and died sadly enough. But there were Christian efforts there in Jamestown likewise in the other southern colonies.

And then of course we look to Pennsylvania which was not really a Quaker colony but it’s a haven where Quakers could find religious freedom and likewise Maryland which is not really a Catholic colony but in the colony in which Catholics could find freedom of Rhode Island where Roger Williams who had a number of quarrels with the Puritans in New England and left and formed Providence, a colony there in what is now Rhode Island. And he himself was Baptist that he made that a colony of religious freedom but we see a religious motive that permeates the colonial settlers.

Bill: Well it seems like this motivation and even as we’ll tie it in when we talk about the next period, the period when the founders started to create Constitution John, our mirror reading about Jefferson one of the sort of the left’s heroes anti-Christianity, of Jefferson doing a couple of things. Number one, Jefferson wanted to make our national emblem the rebellion to tyrants as obedience to God, him and Franklin both wanted that which he got from John Knox it’s my understanding. And then the other thing that Jefferson did that kind of – I always got a kick out of was he wanted to sell some land in Virginia because he wanted to see what was left of Calvin’s Academy getting moved over to this country. And that was at a period of time when they were having some problems over in Geneva, what they wanted to do was take all of the teachers and all of the books, uproot them, and this was Jefferson, he wanted to bring – of all people right, John Calvin’s Academy over here with government mind of all things. So it’s an amazing thing that when we talk about the folks that we’ll talk about in the next section, the Deists as it were that there actually may be inconsistent Deists but will talk about them in a little bit. We’ll talk about Franklin we’ll talk about Jefferson, we’ll talk about some of the others that you’ve written about and I’d like to remind everybody to before we go to break here that you can get John’s course at thefoundersplan.com, we carry that course at thefoundersplan.com so stay tuned we’ll be right back.

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Bill: Once again we’re back with John Eidsmoe and John I just want to read you – were going to start talking a little bit about the revolutionary period and if we dare you can call it that but I want to read something from Ben Franklin and then have you talk about that a little bit. Here’s old Ben’s comments at the convention. He says, I’ve lived Sir for a long time and the longer I live, the more convincing proofs of this that I see of this truth that God governs in the affairs of men and that if a sparrow cannot fall to the ground without his notice is it probable that an empire can rise without his aid? We have been assured Sir in his sacred writings that accept the Lord, build the house, they labor in vain who build it. I firmly believe this and I also believe that without his concurring aid we shall succeed in this political building no better than the builders of Babel.

Now John, that doesn’t sound to me like Deists philosophy, it doesn’t sound like a blind, like he’s appealing to a blind watchmaker. I mean you can’t co-mix someone talking about sparrows falling to the ground and little incidental things like that, you can’t code mix that sort of perspective with a blind watchmaker, a Deist perspective can you?

John: Absolutely not, in fact, Franklin may have been a Deist earlier in life; he said he was in fact, although there are several definitions for Deists but not only the statement you read but many other statements that Franklin later in life clearly showed that he did believe in a God that was actively involved in human affairs. Of all the 55 delegates at the convention, Franklin was probably one of the least orthodox and I don’t think you could say that Franklin was an Orthodox or Trinitarian Christian but he clearly believed in a God who was actively involved in human affairs and Unitarian might be a fair description of his convictions that I don’t believe he ever claims. That and another one in a very similar vein to Franklin would be Jefferson, Jefferson I should add was not at the Constitutional convention, he was ambassador to France at that time and he was not in Congress at the time the Bill of Rights was adopted for the same reason.

But Jefferson to is a man who was frequently called a Deist but various things that he says for example, I shall need the favor of that being in whose hands we are who led our forefathers as Israel of old, that’s in his second inaugural address and clearly by that statement he’s saying that he believes in a God that was actively involved in human history. A famous statement of his, I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just and that he will not stay his justice forever, again, a God who is actively involved in human affairs. Unitarian might possibly describe Jefferson but definitely not Deist.

Bill: Well he used to hang out with Whitfield as well did he not?

John: He certainly did and George Whitfield of course was probably the greatest preacher along with Jonathan Edwards and the religious revival of the 1740s that we call the first great awakening and he and Franklin were friends. Franklin contributed a substantial sums to Whitfield’s campaigns and that is his revival services and 0:45:25 campaigns and did with built sprinting for him free of charge. And Franklin writes about Whitfield repeatedly and the changes that he is making not only in individual lives but in communities. How when Whitfield comes and conducts a series of revival meetings in the community that we see drunks becoming sober and broken marriages being healed and criminals becoming law-abiding citizens. And Franklin was a pragmatist in many ways and Franklin seems to be saying I don’t know if I believe in the theology or not but it works and so I’m all for it.

Bill: He was such a pragmatist I don’t know the heard the story that he when listening to Whitfield’s sermons at the end, he would ask for money for his orphanages I believe in Georgia and Franklin new that he would cave to Whitfield’s appeal to the orphanage so he got into the habit of not taking money with him. And he went to one, I believe I read and Whitfield and his sundering voice appealed for help for the orphans and Franklin just looked down shook his head and went to the guy next to him and borrowed some money to give to Whitfield’s orphanages so this is a guy that supported Trinitarian efforts wouldn’t you say at the least?

John: He certainly did and I should say Franklin opposition to the orphanage was this, not that he didn’t think there should be an orphanage but he felt sending workmen and materials down to Georgia to build one was being wasteful…

Bill: Right, right.

John: And we really ought to set up the orphanage here and bring the orphans up here and so on one occasion he writes, and so on one occasion he writes that, that was his conviction about the matter. And so when Whitfield was preaching I saw that he was probably going to end with an appeal for funds and are resolved that he would get nothing from me and well as his oratory went on I decided that I’d give him a copper coins and that’s all. And then his oratory became so moving to me that I decided I’d give my silver coins too and finally he finished so magnificently that I him did my pockets with the copper, the silver and the gold coins and everything I had.

Bill: That’s amazing, that’s an amazing rendition. Let’s segway, I want to talk about one more thing with you because I think another piece of off the grid history that I want to just kind of touch on before we touch on the 10th amendment is what were the founders reading? So many times we say Thomas Payne was all that was read but I remember reading in your book that what was the Bible was the most quoted book was Deuteronomy not the most quoted? I found that interesting because I think Jesus and the New Testament quotes out of Deuteronomy more than any other book and here are the founders quoting out of Deuteronomy more than any other book.

John: You’re certainly correct about the founders; a study that appeared in 1984 in the American Political Science Review showed that examining thousands of writings of leading American political figures from 1762 to 1805 that looking for the quotations, the source that they quoted more than any other was the Bible. It was 34% of all quotations coming from the Bible and as you say the book of Deuteronomy which is the second statement of the law is quoted more frequently than any other book. But if you set aside the Bible and just look to the human authors, you find that they are quoting primarily Christian writers, they are in Montesquieu France, the Catholic, Sir William Blackstone of England, an Anglican, John Locke, and Locke would not be 100% Orthodox but basically in the Christian camp. And so everything we can see about these founding fathers tells us that they came from a Christian background, they identified with Christianity and they held a Christian worldview. If you look at their church affiliation you find that out of these 55, 28 were Episcopalians, that’s the church of England, and Orthodox church in those days, eight were Presbyterian that’s some of your fiery Calvinists, seven were Congregationalists that’s your New England Puritans, you have two Lutherans, two Dutch reforms, to Methodists, to Roman Catholics, and about three or four that you might say our unorthodox in their beliefs. One of those of course being Franklin and so yes, the framers definitely came out of a Christian worldview and the majority of them definitely held Christian convictions. And they believed not only in a high view of the law of God, that there is a higher law to which all human law must come form with the laws of nature and of nature’s God as 0:50:31 called it in a declaration but they also believed in a low view of human nature. They believed that man is essentially sinful as the Bible describes him and therefore we need a government that’s going to be strong enough to restrain the exercise of sin and preserve civil order but we also need to restrain the government because those who run the government have the same sinful nature as everybody else. And anyway so that’s why they drafted the government with limited powers, with a separation of powers, with checks and balances, rights reserved to the individual and the like and that’s the nature of the founding fathers formula.

Bill: Well it was a great one and we’ve only got a minute or two left John, let’s talk about the 10th amendment being one of those limitations and being something that seems to be in the forefront today with Arizona.

John: Well the 10th amendment simply says that the power is not delegated to the national government or prohibited by it to the states or reserved to the states respectively or to the people. And it means that the federal government does not have all power, doesn’t even have all power except those powers that are expressly prohibited but rather the federal government has only the powers that are delegated to it through the Constitution and all others are reserved to the states or the people. And it is a cornerstone of freedom, the idea of a government is limited powers.

Now it brings up the Arizona situation and the question is whether the power over immigration has been delegated to the national government and one Christian legal scholar recently said it is expressly delegated to the federal government in article 1 section 8 and he’s wrong there. That grants to the federal government power over naturalization as granting citizenship not immigration. Immigration is coming into this country with the extent of staying for an extended time. Naturalization involves becoming a citizen, in fact we talk about the Bureau of Immigration and Naturalization, until 1933 those were two separate offices. They had separate things entirely, the power of the federal government over immigration is not based upon the granted power of naturalization, it’s based upon the power to regulate foreign commerce but like regulating interstate commerce we’ve commonly said that that is a concurrent power, that is when the people in the state delegated that power to the federal government they weren’t saying that the states don’t have any authority in this area. The states still have some authority over interstate commerce, I think they have some authority over international commerce as well and particularly those states whose borders are affected by it.

Now let me tell you something Bill that I think you will find really interesting and I find this very, very disturbing is not only has the national government under the current administration refused to enforce the immigration laws but they have actually taken the state of Arizona to court to prohibit Arizona from enforcing its law which is really identical to the federal. And Arizona has said from the very beginning on this, look if you do not want us to pass this law, just start enforcing yours that’s all we’re asking. And they won’t but they’ve gone to court to prevent Arizona from enforcing its law and that of course is at the appellate level now but just very recently we have read of a report that the Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has given to the United Nations in which she identifies the Arizona immigration law as one source of a potential violation of human rights and essentially by putting this into this report, she’s is inviting the United Nations to come in and join with the present administration in suppressing Arizona’s law. And I love what Governor Jan Brewer of Arizona said on the news when she was just saying in the last couple of days, we are not going to let the federal government push us around and I’ll just close by saying that what I think we need to do is we need to impeach the President and the Secretary of State for treason and we need to consider electing Jan Brewer as president.

Bill: That’s a great way to close John and that’s a powerful way to close. And I want to say thank you to you for your time and your books and effort and let everybody know that you can get John’s work at www.thefoundersplan.com and John thanks again for being with us. We are going to have you back, maybe talk about Columbus.

John: I’d love to do that.

Bill: Thank you again John Eidsmoe.

John: Thank you Bill.

Bill: As always if you want to listen, we want to say thank you for listening to Off the Grid Radio. If you want to listen to us at offthegridnews.com go to the radio button, if you want to e-mail us any questions, you can do so at [email protected] We’re on Facebook under solutionsfromscience and twitter at offgridradio said thank you again on behalf of Jeramy, Brian’s not here but on behalf of Jeramy and me we just want to say thank you for spending some time with us. This is Bill Heid for Off the Grid News Radio.

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