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Obama’s ATF Wants You To Answer This One New Question Before You Can Get A Gun

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The Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, or ATF, is stirring more controversy by requiring all gun buyers and sellers to reveal their race and ethnic background.

Even though it is not required by federal law, sections 10.a and 10.b of the latest version of Form 4473 or the Firearms Transaction Record Over the Counter form ask buyers to disclose their ethnicity and race.

It asks whether the buyer is “Hispanic or Latino” or “Not Hispanic or Latino” and then asks whether the buyer is:

  • American Indian or Alaska Native
  • Asian
  • Black or African American
  • Native Hawaiian or Other Pacific Islander
  • White

It’s Not Optional

Answering the questions is not optional, and gun dealers who fail to get buyers to answer the questions could be shut down, The Washington Times reported. The word “optional” appears in bold letters next to question 8, which asks for a person’s Social Security number. But “optional” does not accompany the race and ethnic questions.

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ATF said the information is being collected to comply with a reporting standard required by the Office of Management and Budget, an ATF spokesperson told The Times. That standard reportedly dates to the Clinton administration.

“This issue concerns me deeply because, first, it’s offensive, and, secondly, there’s no need for it,” Evan Nappen, a private practice firearms lawyer in New Jersey, told The Times. “If there’s no need for an amendment, then there’s usually a political reason for the change. What this indicates is it was done for political reasons, not law enforcement reasons.”

The form makes clear: “The information you provide will be used to determine whether you are prohibited under law from receiving a firearm.”

“There is nothing [in ATF or OMB’s website links addressing the change in policy] that supports the requirement that ATF collect race-based information. The OMB guidance merely describes what categories of race should look like if information is collected,” Laura Murphy, the American Civil Liberties Union director for legislative affairs in Washington, told The Times.

The forms are kept in a dealer’s possession and only obtained by the government during an audit or criminal investigation, The Times said. But some gun rights experts say the government doesn’t always follow the rules.

“We’ve been contacted by several dealers saying ATF is or has been making wholesale copies of their 4473 forms, and it’s just not legal,” Erich Pratt, spokesman for Gun Owners of America, told the newspaper. “If this is what they’re doing somewhat out in the open, what’s going on behind closed doors? Are these names and demographic information getting phoned [in and] punched into a government computer? Do they ever come out?”

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8 comments

  1. Hell no it should’t on the form!!!!

  2. This is clearly an “infringement” on the 2nd Amendment.

  3. re. the copying of dealers’ 4473s, it’s just another way to try to build a list of gun owners.
    That way, when they declare all firearms illegal, they will have a list of at least some of them.
    Thankfully the “free” states don’t require any paperwork for private sales. (yet)
    Yes, that’s another thing on their agenda.

  4. Another O’Buckethead sneak in the back window and screw the citizens
    operation.
    Come on Congress, put an end to this Fake, Phony President once
    and for all. To ALL Members of the House Of Representatives, How Many Of You Consider Yourself True American Citizens? NOW PROVE IT! The same question for the Senate. How Many Of You Consider Yourself True American Citizens? NOW PROVE IT! Next question for both Houses of Congress, How Many Of You Served In the United States Military? PROVE IT! Now, show the citizens of the
    United States you have the GUTS, the BACKBONE and the COURAGE to Stand For The Country and Take The Necessary
    Action To Protect It From The Criminal Element!
    Give Us Back ALL Our Freedoms and Our Nation!

  5. Why don’t I see a check box for people of middle eastern decent?

  6. So what? WTH do I care if the whole world knows I am white and not Hispanic? It’s no secret. Anybody can tell just by looking at me. As long as I am able to buy a gun, let them ask all the questions they want. Age, weight, sexual preference, religion, politics, kinky preferences–I don’t care. As long as I can buy a gun. It’s not a violation of my second amendments rights. It actually reinforces my second amendment rights. I can say anything I want on that form and they still have to let me buy a gun. I like that. That’s freedom.

    • The question adds an additional descriptor & demographic info so you can be more easily profiled. The ATF may chose to add additional questions at a later date like the defunct German Wiemer Republic in the 1920’s with boxes to check off as to income levels, party affiliation & religion. Most of the leg work for gun control was already in place by the time Hitler took over.

  7. I am not surprised that this directive is coming from this racist government we have now. Not surprised at all…

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