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The 5 Greatest Threats To Off-Grid Living

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It’s nothing short of ironic that this nation, which was founded, explored, and made great by adventurous and self-reliant people, has now become a haven for those who insist on being cradled and sheltered by convenience. Responding to the demand that this has created, the government has increasingly made it more difficult to be self-reliant and now seems thoroughly dedicated to preventing anyone from taking care of themselves and their families.

The threats to a sustainable and individual lifestyle are legion these days, but just as with any list, there is always a small group of items that take the top spots. While the threats to life and limb in the early days of our country were almost purely natural, today the primary threats to self-sufficiency come from the government that we put into place and their idea of what should and shouldn’t be regulated.

Here, then, are the five top threats to off-grid living – all from the government:

1. The EPA

There is no doubt whatsoever that the Environmental Protection Agency has done some good since it was established in 1970. After all, if it weren’t for some rules, our skies could look like those over Beijing and we could all be walking around with protective masks.

Despite the good things the agency has accomplished, it has become a force against liberty as the years have passed. I personally consider the EPA, IRS and FEMA to be the triad of agencies that threaten freedom, and the ones most likely to lead to more intrusive government and perhaps even usher in a totalitarian state. This is done through force of regulation, not legislation, and the EPA excels at over-regulating.

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The two most recent and egregious examples of this are the regulations on wood-burning stoves and the change of wording in rules related to the Clean Water Act, which gives it control of essentially any body of water — including ponds and ditches — within US borders.

homesteadingThe wood-burning regulation is a direct attack on off-grid and “plain” living, as only around 10 percent of homes in the US use wood for heating. The idea sounds good on paper — as most of them usually do — but is almost ridiculous in real-world application. Vehicles on the road give off exponentially more soot than the few wood-burning stoves in use.

The ability to control water usage and heating in an off-grid situation is vital, to say the least. Unbridled, it’s foreseeable that this dangerous agency would simply remove our right to even have a campfire, let alone heat our homes with wood. And seizing control of any pool of standing water means seizing control of all the property surrounding the water, too.

2. Obamacare

As with any law or regulation, you really have to look at both the minutia and the big picture to understand the impact of the Affordable Care Act, lovingly known as Obamacare. It’s in the details that people are hoodwinked. “But, it does this or that good thing” is an insane argument when the overarching effects are overwhelmingly negative.

The first threat that Obamacare poses is in the idea that every citizen is required to purchase a certain product – even people off-grid, 100 miles from the nearest big city doctor. That itself is the antithesis of liberty and a free nation. If everyone were required to purchase anything else — a generator, for instance — at double to quadruple the price, there would be revolt. But because it’s health insurance, it’s justified as being for the public good. As the argument goes: Your poor health affects my bill at the doctor’s office.

But aren’t generators that important, too? What happens when the next Katrina strikes? Generators save lives, so shouldn’t everyone be required to keep and maintain one? And that is how the argument spreads. Next thing you know we’re all being penalized if we don’t have one.

At a higher level comes the real fear, though. Government control over health care, in even the tiniest form, means complete and total government control of health care at some point down the road.

Never mind the fact that the law which was supposed to make sure everyone has medical coverage has actually lowered the percentage of covered people. Those pesky facts aren’t important.

3. Local laws

Off-grid living, at its essence, is exactly what it says — living unconnected to the power grid. There are also many other self-sufficiency aspects, but it all starts with “unplugging.” So what happens when not being connected to the grid becomes illegal?

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In Florida last year, a woman was actually threatened with eviction because she wasn’t connected to the city’s power grid or water supply. She had been living off-grid using solar panels for electricity, a rainwater collection system for water, and a propane camp stove for cooking. According to some outdated and inane city (and international!?!) codes, this was unacceptable.

Thriving During Your First Year On The HomesteadOther cases in Florida, and elsewhere, have seen property owners in trouble for growing vegetables in their front yard. It’s one thing to have family and other people look sideways and disapprovingly on someone’s decision to disconnect from the system. It’s another thing entirely when those other, disapproving people wield the power of local codes and laws that are silly at face value and dangerous to freedom at deeper levels.

4. Gun Regulations

In a real self-sufficient situation, hunting and gardening are the two primary means of eating. We’ve already seen that growing your own food can be and has been a cause for legal actions, but those cases pale in comparison to the ongoing assault on owning and using guns.

Rarely does a year go by that hasn’t seen yet another “progressive” attack on US citizens owning guns. Don’t be fooled by the rhetoric; they don’t simply want “assault rifles” or high-capacity magazines to be illegal. They want there to be a complete and total ban on every day, law-abiding citizens owning or using guns. That is a right, in their twisted minds, that should only be reserved for law enforcement, the military, and perhaps celebrities or politicians (is there a difference anymore?) that have armed body guards.

The Second Amendment was the “second amendment” for a reason. It was for protection, from enemies foreign and domestic, and because deer tastes good. And when we are no longer allowed to hunt or grow food, unplugging from the electrical grid becomes a practical impossibility.

5. Restrictions on Religious Liberty

There are physical aspects of freedom, and then there are the mental and spiritual aspects. For a religious people, everything else derives from what God says is good, bad, allowable, necessary or forbidden. That is why oppressive governments throughout history have had atheism as a primary driver or at least a denial of Judaism or Christianity as a valid religion. Once they can crush the spiritual aspect of life, all else will fall into place under their control.

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The Judeo-Christian religions and traditions are based on family-centric communities that help each other and live as harmoniously as possible with each other and the land – sometimes off grid. The Amish, with their centuries-old way of living, are a great example of this type of lifestyle and proof that it can be done still today.

It should be no surprise, then, to see the kinds of attacks that we see today on religion and religious liberty. The bill recently passed and signed into law by Gov. Mike Pence of Indiana regarding religious liberty is simply a reflection of bills that 19 other states already had and that President Clinton signed as a federal law in 1993. Yet the attacks on Pence, the state of Indiana, and the bill were fierce and unyielding.

This shows how far the anti-religion portion of the country and government have come. Any new occurrence that supports religious liberty will be shouted down as bigoted, racist or intolerant going forward. This makes it all the more important to teach our children well and consistently about God and the Bible at home, because once they walk out the front door, they will be told by everyone else that these things are unimportant, imaginary — and even dangerous.

What do you believe is the greatest threat to off-grid living? What would you add to the list? Share your thoughts in the section below:

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  1. Keith Ritman (Minister)

    Religeon, god and the bible are dangerous weapons when used on children and doing so should be punishable by removal of said children

    • I have a hard time believing you are a Minister if you cannot spell religion correctly and don’t know that God should be capitalized when referencing him. Not saying you aren’t but it leaves a lot of questions.

    • Your lack of spelling skills is more dangerous.

    • Al Sharpton (Reverend extraordinaire)

      Keith, if those parents you speak of would just let their children worship at the progressive church of Hollywood, or even youtube, that would solve a lot of problems, would it not?
      Anything that goes aginst the progressive agenda is bad. All children should be taught the things that are important to the more intelligent progressive socialists; like how to live off of other people’s money while sitting on your liberal arse texting your communist friends and enjoying your free 0bamacare that doesn’t cost anybody anything.
      And other things, like “fisting”, important stuff that is approved by smart progressives.
      I’m sure you could enlighten us on a few other things that would keep those children from having to be removed from their families.

      • Al Sharpton is pretty much an idiot and anything he says is to be questioned, vetted and researched for veracity. Two words Tawana Brawley. This Planet of the Apes reject is a racist and suspect in anything he spews regarding same.

      • Al Sharpton (Reverend extraordinaire) April 25, 2015 at 2:31 am, perhaps you should quit worshiping at the altar of FOX News and actually get to know some Progressives. I think you would be pleasantly surprised.

    • What do you mean by that? (Please explain ) There is nothing wrong with teaching your child about your religion . AND NO ONES KIDS SHOULD BE REMOVED BEACUSE OF IT. It’s called Freedom of religion. Something we are blessed to have in America. The kid can decide if they want to follow the religion or not as they grow older. Im not sure what you mean in your statment. . What alot of people get from your post is that your athiest and your against christens teaching there kids about religion ,God and the bible. If this is true you should not clam to be a minister in my opion. But if you mean something else please explain.
      i understand you have the right to your opion even if I do not agree. I just wanted to ask you what your trying to say, and why you feel the way you do? What is the resson behind your statement?

  2. The attack on Mike Pence had more to do with taking him out of the presidential campaign than teh gay rights. And all the alphabet federal agencies have more to do with Congress being able to not offend with laws. “Hey, its regulations. What can I do?”.

  3. I’ve been living off of the grid for 3 years now, with solar, propane, and I haul my own water. The most common question I get is “why don’t you have a regular physical address?”
    My road is unnamed with no address numbers or anything like that. I have a parcel number, which is good enough for the tax man!
    The federal government is starting to get weird, as the post office wants a physical address to renew my post office box. I give them my parcel number, and they tell me that they don’t know how much longer I can qualify for a PO Box. SO I’d say that the federal government is the biggest threat to me living off of the grid.

  4. Joseph Villalobos (Primitive Living Skills Instructor)

    I agree with this whole piece, accept number 5. It seems the writer thinks “The right to bear arms” is more important than “Freedom of Religion” and “The separation of Church and State”. This piece is very bias towards the Christian Faith. The Founding Father’s, especially Thomas Jefferson wrote that in to prevent a Theocracy from ever happening in this country. There is this belief that the Founding Father’s where all Christians and this is not the case. Most of the more well known ones were Deist and did believe in a creator and that we are all equal in the eyes of that Creator. but they were agnostic Deist, and they also believed that man, especially it’s governments shouldn’t have the right to dictate those beliefs to others with laws. At the time, it is true that the Founders didn’t realize how many religious beliefs their laws would protect. But if they were alive today, I believe they still have stood by their view. I don’t like the way some of my more extreme liberal friends are making it a personal fight with the Christian though. I feel their right to practice their beliefs should be as protected as any other as long as they don’t try to force them on another. Even Jesus said not to push your Gospel on those who would not hear it when in Luke 9:5 he said, “And whosoever will not receive you, when ye go out of that city, shake off the very dust from your feet for a testimony against them.” He never said to stay there and make his Gospel a law to force them to follow it. Jesus’s Gospel can only be accepted by a willing heart. You can’t force people to convert with laws. Jesus also said in Mark 12:17, “And Jesus answering said unto them, Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar’s, and to God the things that are God’s. And they marveled at him.” One can not just take those part of the Bible you feel give you the right to set up a Theocracy and ignore the rest of the Bible.

    But in the case of our Founding Father’s mostly being Agnostic Deist and not Fundamentalist Christians, I give my follow proof by listing quotes by them that are pretty blunt and straight forward and can’t be twisted.

    1. “If I could conceive that the general government might ever be so administered as to render the liberty of conscience insecure, I beg you will be persuaded, that no one would be more zealous than myself to establish effectual barriers against the horrors of spiritual tyranny, and every species of religious persecution.”
    ~Founding Father George Washington, letter to the United Baptist Chamber of Virginia, May 1789

    2. “Of all the animosities which have existed among mankind, those which are caused by a difference of sentiments in religion appear to be the most inveterate and distressing, and ought to be deprecated. I was in hopes that the enlightened and liberal policy, which has marked the present age, would at least have reconciled Christians of every denomination so far that we should never again see the religious disputes carried to such a pitch as to endanger the peace of society.”
    ~Founding Father George Washington, letter to Edward Newenham, October 20, 1792

    3. “We have abundant reason to rejoice that in this Land the light of truth and reason has triumphed over the power of bigotry and superstition… In this enlightened Age and in this Land of equal liberty it is our boast, that a man’s religious tenets will not forfeit the protection of the Laws, nor deprive him of the right of attaining and holding the highest Offices that are known in the United States.”
    ~Founding Father George Washington, letter to the members of the New Church in Baltimore, January 27, 1793

    4. “The United States of America have exhibited, perhaps, the first example of governments erected on the simple principles of nature; and if men are now sufficiently enlightened to disabuse themselves of artifice, imposture, hypocrisy, and superstition, they will consider this event as an era in their history. Although the detail of the formation of the American governments is at present little known or regarded either in Europe or in America, it may hereafter become an object of curiosity. It will never be pretended that any persons employed in that service had interviews with the gods, or were in any degree under the influence of Heaven, more than those at work upon ships or houses, or laboring in merchandise or agriculture; it will forever be acknowledged that these governments were contrived merely by the use of reason and the senses.”
    ~John Adams, “A Defense of the Constitutions of Government of the United States of America” 1787-1788

    5. “The Government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian religion.”
    ~1797 Treaty of Tripoli signed by Founding Father John Adams

    6. “Thirteen governments [of the original states] thus founded on the natural authority of the people alone, without a pretence of miracle or mystery, and which are destined to spread over the northern part of that whole quarter of the globe, are a great point gained in favor of the rights of mankind.”
    ~Founding Father John Adams, “A Defence of the Constitutions of Government of the United States of America” (1787-88)

    7. “We should begin by setting conscience free. When all men of all religions shall enjoy equal liberty, property, and an equal chance for honors and power we may expect that improvements will be made in the human character and the state of society.”
    ~Founding FatherJohn Adams, letter to Dr. Price, April 8, 1785

    8. “I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibit the free exercise thereof, thus building a wall of separation between church and state.”
    ~Founding Father Thomas Jefferson, letter to the Baptists of Danbury, Connecticut, 1802

    9. “In every country and in every age, the priest has been hostile to liberty. He is always in alliance with the despot, abetting his abuses in return for protection to his own. It is error alone that needs the support of government. Truth can stand by itself.”
    ~Founding Father Thomas Jefferson, in a letter to Horatio Spofford, 1814

    10. “Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason, then that of blindfolded fear.”
    ~Founding Father Thomas Jefferson, letter to Peter Carr, August 10, 1787
    11. “I am for freedom of religion and against all maneuvers to bring about a legal ascendancy of one sect over another.”
    ~Founding Father Thomas Jefferson, letter to Elbridge Gerry, January 26, 1799

    12. “History, I believe, furnishes no example of a priest-ridden people maintaining a free civil government. This marks the lowest grade of ignorance of which their civil as well as religious leaders will always avail themselves for their own purposes.”
    ~Founding Father Thomas Jefferson: in letter to Alexander von Humboldt, December 6, 1813

    13. “Because religious belief, or non-belief, is such an important part of every person’s life, freedom of religion affects every individual.

    State churches that use government power to support themselves and force their views on persons of other faiths undermine all our civil rights. Moreover, state support of the church tends to make the clergy unresponsive to the people and leads to corruption within religion. Erecting the “wall of separation between church and state,” therefore, is absolutely essential in a free society. We have solved … the great and interesting question whether freedom of religion is compatible with order in government and obedience to the laws. And we have experienced the quiet as well as the comfort which results from leaving every one to profess freely and openly those principles of religion which are the inductions of his own reason and the serious convictions of his own inquiries.”
    ~Founding Father Thomas Jefferson: in a speech to the Virginia Baptists, 1808

    14. “Christianity neither is, nor ever was a part of the common law.”
    ~Founding Father Thomas Jefferson, letter to Dr. Thomas Cooper, February 10, 1814,

    15. “The civil government functions with complete success by the total separation of the Church from the State.”
    ~Founding Father James Madison, 1819, Writings, 8:432, quoted from Gene Garman, “Essays In Addition to America’s Real Religion”
    16. “And I have no doubt that every new example will succeed, as every past one has done, in shewing that religion & Govt will both exist in greater purity, the less they are mixed together.”
    ~Founding Father James Madison, letter to Edward Livingston, July 10, 1822

    17. “Every new and successful example of a perfect separation between ecclesiastical and civil matters is of importance.”
    ~Founding Father James Madison, letter, 1822

    18. “Strongly guarded as is the separation between Religion and Government in the Constitution of the United States, the danger of encroachment by Ecclesiastical Bodies, may be illustrated by precedents already furnished in their short history.”
    ~Founding Father James Madison; Monopolies, Perpetuities, Corporations, Ecclesiastical

    19. “It is only when the people become ignorant and corrupt, when they degenerate into a populace, that they are incapable of exercising the sovereignty. Usurpation is then an easy attainment, and an usurper soon found. The people themselves become the willing instruments of their own debasement and ruin. Let us, then, look to the great cause, and endeavor to preserve it in full force. Let us by all wise and constitutional measures promote intelligence among the people as the best means of preserving our liberties.”
    ~Founding Father James Monroe, First Inaugural Address, March 4, 1817

    20. “When a religion is good, I conceive it will support itself; and when it does not support itself, and God does not take care to support it so that its professors are obligated to call for help of the civil power, it’s a sign, I apprehend, of its being a bad one.”
    ~Founding Father Benjamin Franklin, letter to Richard Price, October 9, 1780
    21. “Manufacturers, who listening to the powerful invitations of a better price for their fabrics, or their labor, of greater cheapness of provisions and raw materials, of an exemption from the chief part of the taxes burdens and restraints, which they endure in the old world, of greater personal independence and consequence, under the operation of a more equal government, and of what is far more precious than mere religious toleration–a perfect equality of religious privileges; would probably flock from Europe to the United States to pursue their own trades or professions, if they were once made sensible of the advantages they would enjoy, and were inspired with an assurance of encouragement and employment, will, with difficulty, be induced to transplant themselves, with a view to becoming cultivators of the land.”
    ~Founding Father Alexander Hamilton: Report on the Subject of Manufacturers December 5,

    22. “In regard to religion, mutual toleration in the different professions thereof is what all good and candid minds in all ages have ever practiced, and both by precept and example inculcated on mankind.”
    ~Samuel Adams, The Rights of the Colonists (1771)

    23. “That religion, or the duty which we owe to our Creator, and the manner of discharging it, can be directed only by reason and conviction, not by force or violence; and therefore all men are equally entitled to the free exercise of religion, according to the dictates of conscience; and that it is the mutual duty of all to practice Christian forebearance, love, and charity towards each other.”
    ~Founding Father George Mason, Virginia Bill of Rights, 1776

    24. “It is contrary to the principles of reason and justice that any should be compelled to contribute to the maintenance of a church with which their consciences will not permit them to join, and from which they can derive no benefit; for remedy whereof, and that equal liberty as well religious as civil, may be universally extended to all the good people of this commonwealth.”
    ~Founding Father George Mason, Virginia Declaration of Rights, 1776

    25. “A man of abilities and character, of any sect whatever, may be admitted to any office or public trust under the United States. I am a friend to a variety of sects, because they keep one another in order. How many different sects are we composed of throughout the United States? How many different sects will be in congress? We cannot enumerate the sects that may be in congress. And there are so many now in the United States that they will prevent the establishment of any one sect in prejudice to the rest, and will forever oppose all attempts to infringe religious liberty. If such an attempt be made, will not the alarm be sounded throughout America? If congress be as wicked as we are foretold they will, they would not run the risk of exciting the resentment of all, or most of the religious sects in America.”
    ~Founding Father Edmund Randolph, address to the Virginia Ratifying Convention, June
    10, 1788

    26. “I never liked the Hierarchy of the Church — an equality in the teacher of Religion, and a dependence on the people, are republican sentiments — but if the Clergy combine, they will have their influence on Government”
    ~Founding Father Rufus King, Rufus King: American Federalist, pp. 56-57

    27. A general toleration of Religion appears to me the best means of peopling our country… The free exercise of religion hath stocked the Northern part of the continent with inhabitants; and altho’ Europe hath in great measure adopted a more moderate policy, yet the profession of Protestantism is extremely inconvenient in many places there. A Calvinist, a Lutheran, or Quaker, who hath felt these inconveniences in Europe, sails not to Virginia, where they are felt perhaps in a (greater degree).”
    ~Patrick Henry, observing that immigrants flock to places where there is no established religion, Religious Tolerance, 1766

    28. “No religious doctrine shall be established by law.”
    ~Founding Father Elbridge Gerry, Annals of Congress 1:729-731
    29. “Knowledge and liberty are so prevalent in this country, that I do not believe that the United States would ever be disposed to establish one religious sect, and lay all others under legal disabilities. But as we know not what may take place hereafter, and any such test would be exceedingly injurious to the rights of free citizens, I cannot think it altogether superfluous to have added a clause, which secures us from the possibility of such oppression.”
    ~Founding Father Oliver Wolcott, Connecticut Ratifying Convention, 9 January 1788

    30. “Some very worthy persons, who have not had great advantages for information, have objected against that clause in the constitution which provides, that no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States. They have been afraid that this clause is unfavorable to religion. But my countrymen, the sole purpose and effect of it is to exclude persecution, and to secure to you the important right of religious
    liberty. We are almost the only people in the world, who have a full enjoyment of this important right of human nature. In our country every man has a right to worship God in that way which is most agreeable to his conscience. If he be a good and peaceable person he is liable to no penalties or incapacities on account of his religious sentiments; or in other words, he is not subject to persecution. But in other parts of the world, it has been, and still is, far different. Systems of religious error have been adopted, in times of ignorance. It has been the interest of tyrannical kings, popes, and prelates, to maintain these errors. When the clouds of ignorance began to vanish, and the people grew more enlightened, there was no other way to keep them in error, but to prohibit their altering their religious opinions by severe persecuting laws. In this way persecution became general throughout Europe.”
    ~Founding Father Oliver Ellsworth, Philip B Kurland and Ralph Lerner (eds.), The Founder’s Constitution, University of Chicago Press, 1987, Vol. 4, p.

    31. “Persecution is not an original feature in any religion; but it is always the strongly marked feature of all religions established by law. Take away the law-establishment, and every religion re-assumes its original benignity.”
    ~Thomas Paine, The Rights of Man, 1791

    32. “God has appointed two kinds of government in the world, which are distinct in their nature, and ought never to be confounded together; one of which is called civil, the other ecclesiastical government.”
    ~Founding Father Isaac Backus, An Appeal to the Public for Religious Liberty, 1773

    33. “Congress has no power to make any religious establishments.”
    ~Founding Father Roger Sherman, Congress, August 19, 1789

    34. “The American states have gone far in assisting the progress of truth; but they have stopped short of perfection. They ought to have given every honest citizen an equal right to enjoy his religion and an equal title to all civil emoluments, without obliging him to tell his religion. Every interference of the civil power in regulating opinion, is an impious attempt to take the business of the Deity out of his own hands; and every preference given to any religious denomination, is so far slavery and bigotry.”
    ~Founding Father Noah Webster, calling for no religious tests to serve in public office, Sketches of American Policy, 1785

    35. “The legislature of the United States shall pass no law on the subject of religion.”
    ~Founding Father Charles Pinckney, Constitutional Convention, 1787

    As you can see, these Founding Father’s were anything but Conservative Christian, and greatly against the idea of a Theocracy the the Christians today would love to put in place. Many believe the Constitution is their greatest enemy in the fight for a Judeo-Christian Theocracy.

    I believe in a Creator. I’m not an atheist. My Liberal friends think I’m too conservative. My Conservative friends think I’m too Liberal. My devout Christian oldest sister (and a homesteader) thinks I’m a Libertarian. I’m none of these. I’m just a man who believes my relationship with my Creator is a personal one and not for you or any government, church or religious leader/pastor to dictate to me. And that my personal sovereignty is more important than any of your secular or religious laws. It is in the right to practice my personal sovereignty that I’m able to carry on that personal relationship with my Creator untainted by other’s bias moral compass. Creator speaks to my heart and guides my morals, not your religious text or secular laws.

    • Joseph Villalobos (Primitive Living Skills Instructor)

      I believe it is our personal sovereignty that the Founding Father’s intended to protect when they wrote the Constitution and Bill of Rights.

  5. There is not a war on Christianity. There is a movement of people trying to separate the church and state, as it should be. Believe what you want to but leave others alone. Your beliefs should not effect my laws. Good article up until you excluded a large portion of the country population that refuses to believe in fairy tales. Im a homesteader of 10 years, off grid, I provide all the food for my family, and Im an atheist. My life is good because I made it that way….no god needed.

  6. Child Protective Services will take ur kids if u try 2 live off the grid & homeschool

    • I call BS. Maybe it is because you can’t spell, so need an actual education before you try to teach? I have met many who live off grid, homeschool, and have all of their children.

  7. I disagree with much of what was said in this article. The Constitution does NOT say that a person has a right to their own personal firearms. What it DOES say is that we have the right to an armed MILITIA.

    While I personally believe that people should be allowed to have hunting rifles, and in rural areas, they should also be allowed firearms for family protection, I also believe that guns should be kept out of the hands of the criminally insane. I am an extreme left leaning Progressive. I was raised by parents who had lived on farms, with grandparents who farmed until they died. Almost every person in my family hunted.

    I also disagree with the statements about religious freedoms being denied in this country. I can look out my front door and count 6 churches, just in my neighborhood. I don’t see any police raids on churches. I see radicalized “Christians” picketing Mosques. In the news, I do hear about people screaming about their religious freedoms being taken, but only the people who would deny others their own rights.

    I am a patriot, from a long line of military personnel. Every generation of my family has had a member of the military, since this country was founded. I was weaned on the Constitution. What I see are “religious” people denying rights to others-LGBT, Muslims, Hispanics, Atheists, etc, in the name of God and religion. In my humble opinion, if one person has a right, then it is every person’s right-to marry, to worship or not-as they choose.

    I think the writer needs to carefully read the quotes by Joseph Villalobos. There are many more quotes that can be found on the internet, as well, that show that the Founding fathers had their reasons to keep religion out of politics.

    BTW, instead of complaining about Obamacare, maybe you could actually research all the Corporations that are buying off Legislators so they can get the laws passed that THEY want, instead of laws that would serve the people. If Corporations and the top 1% payed taxes and paid into Social Security, like the rest of us, many things would be better for everyone. When they actually paid taxes, the Interstate highway system was built, as well as the system of phone lines, power grid, etc. We had the most highly educated people in the world. Now we are a country of morons.

    And while you may think those things are socialist, so are the Police Departments, Fire Departments, Public schools, the Military, the roads, the power grid, and many more.

    If we quit subsidizing Corporations who had a 40 BILLION dollar profit margin, we could feed every person in the country.

    BTW, I was raised in the Protestant Church. I see feeding the poor and taking care of our sick and the elderly as Christian things to do. Please explain why many Christians don’t.

    • Teresa B…the only part I wish to address is your interpretation of the Second Amendment. Unfortunately, you are quite incorrect in your statement. The Supreme Court has ruled, by looking at the law and the history behind said law, that the Second Amendment is most assuredly about individuals having the right to keep and bear arms. Ruled on, accepted, done deal. Every individual who is not a felon or mentally ill, and is legally able to bear arms has the right to own a firearm. I live in Florida and most people have firearms. We have them in our homes and legally carry them in our cars without permits, for self-protection and protection of family. We also get to take them fishing and boating (again, without permit) and a few other outdoor activities, due to bears, alligators, Florida Panthers, rattlesnakes, etc. Our right is guaranteed and more and more individuals are exercising that right. It has nothing to do with a “militia”.

      • Aye, the context of the Bill of Rights, Declaration, and Constitution must be understood truthfully by a reading of the ‘Federalist Papers.’

        In doing so, one sees that the Founders believed that our rights came from the ‘Creator’ (notice how they didn’t say ‘God’)? So if your ‘Creator’ is Buddha, Confucius, God, Yahweh, Allah, …or Vishnu, that’s where your rights come from. Not the paper the rights are written on. The ‘paper’ directs the Govt. to ‘protect’ those rights.

        Kinda neat huh?

      • I agree with most of what you say.

        I must ask What Inalienable means to you?

        Answer: incapable of being alienated, surrendered, or transferred

        Once you place restrictions on the 2nd Amendment you have in effect ruled that Inalienable is does not apply and any right can be taken away or changed so that it’s original intent is lost..

    • I totally agree Teresa B

    • First of all, you aren’t a patriot. If you were, you would have more respect for those who fought and died to give you freedom, most, yes MOST of whom were Christians. Yes, real Christians try to keep evil, and false religions from attacking and trying to silence US! LGBT, muslims, etc. are all a threat to Christians because they keep trying to force us to cater to them, when it is our RIGHT not to. It is free speech to speak out against them, and they want us silenced and forced to serve THEM, but I guess it’s okay for them to speak out against us. Oh, yeah, you know nothing of Christianity if you think Christians should feed the poor. The Bible says” if a man does not work, he shall not eat”. So if you think that is too harsh, you’d better not associate with the God of the bible, He’s too mean for you, and you have no desire to understand or serve Him. Your loss.

  8. One of the largest threats we are facing while building off grid and not quite living yet, is theives. They have broken into lock boxes and taken generators and tools. Now we have infrared camo game cameras- and while checking the sd card- can see people coming right onto property and taking what they want. The local police do nothing.

  9. Naivete’ is a key threat. Thinking others will of course obey the rules. Thinking the local law enforcement is there to protect you and everything yours. Ask an officer and the answer will be: they enforce the written code and if that covers your problem great if not too bad. Naive to think when things go bad you will learn what to do to be productive on your land. Naive to think that “carefully thought out” escape route to your property, mountain, or treehouse bunker doesn’t have someone else plan intercepting or blocking yours. Naive to think that buried coins/weapons cache is going to be easy to find after that creek or river overflows burying the area in mud and debris. Burning your trees as your only source of energy is great till lightning or careless neighbor burns it first. Never assume. Never an ass-u-me.

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